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Old 01-27-2015, 03:54 PM   #1
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We are in desperate need of new sideline mirrors that will allow a better view. Any suggestions as to what to replace these old ones with?
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:46 PM   #2
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You can see how I did it on my 74 Argosy motorhome. Not exactly an easy task but if you want them to be solid then you'll need to do something along the lines of what I did.

Ramco mirror installation on 74 Argosy

Another mirror thread

And another mirror thread

I installed Velvac mirrors on an 84 310 and used Ramco's on my Argosy.

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Old 01-27-2015, 06:48 PM   #3
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Not sure that this will be any help, but here is what we did: the original mirrors on our 310 had degraded to the point that only about half of the reflective material was left on the convex part of the mirror. Brad Kahler (BKahler here) was parting out a newer 345 with better mirrors, and sold them to me. He retrofitted them to my mounts by machining 1" aluminum bushings that you will see at the bottom of the black arms in the photo. You will find threads here where people have mounted better mirrors, but that takes more work that I was able to give it at the time.
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Thread hijack, but BRAD!!! great to hear from you again. The forum wasn't the same without you and your advice. Awesome to have you back.

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Thread hijack, but BRAD!!! great to hear from you again. The forum wasn't the same without you and your advice. Awesome to have you back.

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I kinda sorta just ducked back in for a moment It was suggested by a friend that I check this thread and possibly make a comment or two.

I'm deep in the throes of organizing the shop and installing my 4-post car lift. I had hoped to move the Argosy into the shop this fall but it didn't happen so now I'm shooting for next spring. Once it's in the shop I'll actually start working on it again

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We ordered Velvac mirrors that are 18.5x9.5.
They are huge!! Does anyone know if our Motorhome will support the weight? They weigh about 9lbs each. They salesman/tech services guy said these will work. I'm worried about the aluminum supporting the weight of these massive mirrors. Granted, we need something better than what is on it, you can hardly see out of them!
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We ordered Velvac mirrors that are 18.5x9.5.
They are huge!! Does anyone know if our Motorhome will support the weight? They weigh about 9lbs each. They salesman/tech services guy said these will work. I'm worried about the aluminum supporting the weight of these massive mirrors. Granted, we need something better than what is on it, you can hardly see out of them!
Yes they will work. Inside the outer skin of the Airstream there is an aluminum plate welded to the structural members of the coach. Bear in mind however that the plate is not overly large and is only about 3/8" thick.

I installed the tall Velvac mirrors on a 310 and found that the passenger side is TOO tall. You can only see the bottom half or so of the mirror due to the location of the mirror mount.

You will also need two aluminum plates machined to match the angle of the coach curvature. If you would like I can take some pictures of the 310 installation so you can see how I tackled the problem.

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Does anyone know of a source for mirrors that use the existing mounting arms?
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Hi Brad, I would appreciate some pictures, it would be help tremendously.
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:50 AM   #10
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The problem with mounting Velvac mirrors to the side of an Airstream motorhome is the sides are not flat and perpendicular to the road. On the 310 I added the mirrors to I had to add attachment blocks that tapered about 1/2" to 5/8" from top to bottom.

What I did was buy two pieces of 3/4" thick aluminum flat plate (don't remember for sure but could have been 1" as well) and traced the outlines of the mirror bases onto the plates. I then used a band saw to rough cut the pattern out of the aluminum block.

The next step was to use a belt sander to smooth out the edges. I then laid out all of the holes and drilled and tapped for the appropriate 1/4"x20 thread size.

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The next step was to drop the two blocks off at my local machinist to mill the angle on the plates. Once I got them back I removed the old mirrors from the 310 and started laying out just where they had to be mounted to ensure I was fastening to the aluminum plate on the inside wall of the coach.

Since the Velvac mirrors have power to the motors and heat a hole was drilled to allow the wires to pass through into the coach. (not shown in the pictures)

By the way, all of the holes etc you see in the picture were done by the shop in San Diego that replace the skin on the left side of the coach. Damage was done by the PO!

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The pictures below show the final results. Sorta look like a large insect doesn't it

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Like I mentioned previously at least 1/2 of the passenger side mirror is blocked due to the angle of the windshield.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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Brad, thank you very much, I have forwarded your info regarding the mirrors to our Mechanic at Toms Truck Repair.
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Brad, thank you very much, I have forwarded your info regarding the mirrors to our Mechanic at Toms Truck Repair.
The big thing to watch for is making sure all of the mounting screws end up on the aluminum plate inside the shell. I actually added an extra screw on the drivers side about in the middle because one of the existing holes that I used was a little iffy.

Good luck!

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Brad,
Thanks, I'll let him know.
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