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Old 09-10-2012, 09:32 AM   #15
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That whole engine needs to be gone through. Oil pressure gages are there for a reason. The pistons are probably ok. Rods, cams, rockers etc all need to be checked. This kind of thing is why I do everything myself.

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Old 09-10-2012, 10:30 AM   #16
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Cripes, I was born to worry, and this one has me going nuts! I am calling a few Isuzu outlets today to see if main and rod bearings are available. I'm still going to insist the pan be pulled and bottom inspected. I like the idea of changing the oil and filters a couple of times, had not thought of that. Having the oil tested is a good idea, as well. Thanks for all your replys, I know you feel my pain.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:20 AM   #17
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If there is a silver lining, we have a nice place to stay, with hookups. I can smell the salt water.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:35 PM   #18
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Aside from the nice place to stay, this sucks.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:23 PM   #19
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Aside from the nice place to stay, this sucks.
Chin up Mike!
Opening my Pacificos a little early today, since I have no control right now, and I'm a CONTROL guy!
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:34 PM   #20
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Well, I hope you have some Limes, cos with all this stress, you need your Vitamin C!

This one is a tough call....
The new turbo is good... did it just sieze or worse?
The lack of oil will have most impact on the rod and crank bearing in a diesel, as a heavy chunk of the cylinder wall lube is hopefully handled by the diesel fuel... or that is the way it was always explained to me... thats why many earlier diesels had twin oil control rings top and bottom to keep engine oil OUT of the compression chamber to prevent a run-away situation. Not sure how the your motor is set up tho!
I have seen engines with oil pressure loss for s short period, with no heavy load do ok... but in this situation, I would get them checked!
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:41 PM   #21
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Opening my Pacificos a little early today, since I have no control right now, and I'm a CONTROL guy!
The "Moss Gods" are just trying to keep you in the Great Northwest for awhile Mike. They get lonesome when you take off every year.

On a more serious note oil analysis is great but one will not tell you much. You need to do several to detect changes in the results. If you had an analysis or two before the incident and another a thousand or two miles after the incident you would have a true story of the damage.

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Old 09-10-2012, 01:48 PM   #22
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Hi, since this was an honest mistake and your mechanic admitted it, I think you should try to work something out with him. [just an idea] Obviously this isn't a brand new engine and you drove it knowing that there was no oil pressure; maybe let your mechanic pay for the turbo charger and split the difference in cost of parts needed. [maybe split the labor too] He's your friend.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:59 PM   #23
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Yikes... the bottom end inspection will tell you a lot... any wear down there and you aren't fixing anything... it's a complete rebuild...
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Mike - The real problem here is that you want to get on the road and leave the area. If something happens 3000 miles from home you are stuck paying the big bucks and living costs probably also. But, if the engine tests out OK on a 100 mile test run out HWY #2, or similar, with some hills, then it will probably continue to serve you for the near future. Maybe make a deal, so that if it shows a problem while you are away, to have it rebuild when you return with some sharing of responsibility.

Sure does screw up the plans.

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Do you have an exact point oil pressure used to be? If it is still at that point, and inspection shows main bearings are still good, you may still have a good engine. A lot of oil is splash lubrication, pressure bypass answer good if turbo gets it's pressure only from filtered oil and not the bypass oil. Airslides answer makes a lot of sense, if your mechanic will do the labor free, offer to split the bearing replacement cost as you did have a few miles on the old ones and by replacing you will feel better when you are far from home.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:34 PM   #26
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After the turbo goes in, I'm going to hang around here, weather is nice, I need to get fresh tires mounted, so we'll put some miles on her. I know what the oil pressure is with fresh Delo, so we'll go from there. Does freak me out, though. The Isuzu guys tell me we might have dodged a bullet, as those are industrial engines.
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Hi, since this was an honest mistake and your mechanic admitted it, I think you should try to work something out with him. [just an idea] Obviously this isn't a brand new engine and you drove it knowing that there was no oil pressure; maybe let your mechanic pay for the turbo charger and split the difference in cost of parts needed. [maybe split the labor too] He's your friend.
I'm not suggesting that this is wrong-headed and Mike should get a lawyer or anything crazy like that, but Mike pointed out the lack of oil pressure reading at startup and the mechanic told him to drive it. I see that as 2 mistakes the mechanic made, both serious.

I'd see what an inspection of the engine turns up, and see what the mechanic offers before I jumped in offering to go Dutch on the job.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:51 PM   #28
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Bsides no oil pressure when a turbo blows there is a possibillity of turbo ''shrapnel'' being sucked into the intake. Don't ask how I know. Sal.
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