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Old 07-12-2016, 04:53 AM   #29
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Blown head gasket. Scheduled to be back on the road Thursday. 4 and 5 cylinders were swapping fluids and air.
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Good news! You have to be relieved that it wasnt something worse. Good on ya!
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:39 AM   #34
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Blown head gasket. Scheduled to be back on the road Thursday. 4 and 5 cylinders were swapping fluids and air.
It's amazing what seems like such a simple change (injectors) can cause so much grief down the road.

I'm really glad you'll be getting back on the road shortly. Did you ever get your cruise control problem resolved?


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Old 07-13-2016, 04:53 PM   #35
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Alright, so now we all know it was the head gasket....if you are planning on keeping the same injectors you installed I strongly recommend switching to ARP head studs....this is the reason why. Dodge uses a torque angle method of tightening your cylinder head. If you verify you will see that the torque is equal to about 115 ft. Lbs. if torque. The increased power of the new injectors require more torque....approx. 125 ft. Lbs. You don't have to believe me but if you check with other sources you will see I am correct. I would not re-tighten the bolts that are in there now and hopefully they replaced them because they are stretch bolts and after a few heating and cooling cycles they are subject to breaking if you try to increase torque. Regards, Bob
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Huge relief. Will be glad to get going again.

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Thanks for the input, have passed along the 125 ft/lb request. They are replacing them.
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Funny thing is, I would just assume that new head studs would be used......People try and re attach diesel heads with old studs???

I guess I'll keep that in mind for the future.

Glad it wasn't something huge....

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They don't use studs from the factory...It is common practice to upgrade to studs made by a company called ARP.
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Okay, I didn't know that OEM are only bolts not studs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most head gasket problems, head bolt/stud related; i.e. the stud/bolt stretches too much over time relaxing the pressure on the head gasket, causing failure.

It was very prevalent in the Cadillac/Olds Northstar V8 engines, that the bolts actually stripped out of the aluminum block.

http://www.northstarperformance.com/hgfaq.php

Also just curious. How many times should head bolts be retorqued, a) after initial head gasket replacement, b) over the lifetime of a diesel 6BT or 6BD1A/T?

Yes, this BYMDIY, knows just enough to be a danger to all.

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If your motor is running well and you dont detect a head related problem, is it worth the risk of snapping a head stud while retorque ing for preventative maintenance purposes?? I was faced with that decision last fall when I had it in for a valve adjustment. I had requested my mechanic to retorque the head to spec and he brought that up. I chose not to have it done. As you know I have pretty limited mechanical skills/knowledge, so Im asking here..

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No re-torquing, period. Regards, Bob
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Update, they finished late thursday, we decided to use their provided hookups and head out Friday morning. Made it 130 miles before overheating, oil in coolant, and low oil. At another cummins power shop for work under warranty. Cannot make this up.
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