Newfoundland trip

[Vycan]

Bob,

Not too good at searching for transport. I found one for 6k, and one for 6.5k. Any help would be awesome.

[Isuzusweet]

Nick

Wow! Sorry about your luck mate. We were hoping you and your family would drop by on your way out. What ever it ends up being, it doesn't sound cheap.

We just got back from a very long weekend at Port Franks (just below The Pinery's Provincial Park). The 310 ran like a top with temps below 180 and all other gauges in the green, but my fingers do ache from being crossed all the bloody time.

I hope the kids are taking it in stride.

Cheers
Tony

[bobmiller1]

Check with Horizon Transport....low boy should be 800.00 to 1200.00 (US) for the northern friends reading....how many miles??? They should be able to find you one going back empty... Regards, Bob

[streamquest]

Nick,

Sorry to hear about your troubles. A friend in the towing business said a Landall should run about $100 per hour.

If you had made it closer, I'd gladly loan you the 370 to continue the trip.

Charly

[Vycan]

Thanks gents,

In this moment of incredible frustration your assistance soothes a bit. I plan to hunt down one of the airstream gods after this. It will be slow, painful, and one sided, but it will be worth it.

So oddly we have college friends in the area, and from what I am seeing I am inclined more and more to agree with bob regarding head gasket. The gents here are trying to prepare me for the worst I suppose. I did notice higher egt temps with the new injectors and am considering going back to stock and returning the new ones. Went from 700 to 800 deg aft of the turbo. I am also realizing I have all my tools with me and can take the head and everything apart on my own... the only concern I have is if the fan assembly is bolted to the head.

Tony,

We are still planning to head to Niagara Falls and see yall on the way out if you want the company.

Charly,
Still planning to stop by just pm your address when able so I can see how to fit it in.

So the trip right now will be from here to Acadia NP, then down to training in DC area.

We are actually enjoying the time in mineapolis. Great food, parks, lakes and hiking.

[Isuzusweet]

Originally Posted by Vycan

Thanks gents,

In this moment of incredible frustration your assistance soothes a bit. I plan to hunt down one of the airstream gods after this. It will be slow, painful, and one sided, but it will be worth it.

So oddly we have college friends in the area, and from what I am seeing I am inclined more and more to agree with bob regarding head gasket. The gents here are trying to prepare me for the worst I suppose. I did notice higher egt temps with the new injectors and am considering going back to stock and returning the new ones. Went from 700 to 800 deg aft of the turbo. I am also realizing I have all my tools with me and can take the head and everything apart on my own... the only concern I have is if the fan assembly is bolted to the head.

Tony,

We are still planning to head to Niagara Falls and see yall on the way out if you want the company.

Charly,
Still planning to stop by just pm your address when able so I can see how to fit it in.

So the trip right now will be from here to Acadia NP, then down to training in DC area.

We are actually enjoying the time in mineapolis. Great food, parks, lakes and hiking.

My money's on you, but remember their kin, and they're vindictive buggers.

Here's hoping it's just a head gasket and you maybe right, adding just that bit more fuel and heat to an old gasket pushed it too far. With a new high performance gasket your new injectors maybe okay. I wouldn't throw out the baby with the bath water just yet. Be thankful you have the room to work on those rigs.

As for the visit, anytime and for however long you wish.

Cheers
Tony

[Kota]

From your description, I'd be a bit surprised if it was just a head gasket. A loaded head for it isn't to bad price wise and pretty readily available.



Not a bad job.

Leaks in the intercooler won't lead rough running but can cause smoke and loss of power and overheating. Thermal stress on then is the culprit. They developed small cracks.

I'd pull the head. That will tell the story. You could be on the road pretty quick with a reman head from a local shop. In any case I'd track down the overheating issue.

If you were a little closer I'd run up and give a hand.

[bobmiller1]

Maybe we can hook up somewhere in August....I have decided to take the second week of August off and Debbie and I are going to drive the 370 back from North Carolina. Fortunately for us being with Snap-On for 27 years if we have a problem on the road I can get in touch with the servicing dealer in that area and find the right place to go for repair work. Regards, Bob

[Isuzusweet]

PM sent to Bob.

[Vycan]

Team,

Blown head gasket. Scheduled to be back on the road Thursday. 4 and 5 cylinders were swapping fluids and air.

[mayco]

Good news! You have to be relieved that it wasnt something worse. Good on ya!

[martin300662]

Great news; onwards and upwards!

[bobmiller1]

You're Welcome.

[bkahler]

Originally Posted by Vycan

Team,

Blown head gasket. Scheduled to be back on the road Thursday. 4 and 5 cylinders were swapping fluids and air.

It's amazing what seems like such a simple change (injectors) can cause so much grief down the road.

I'm really glad you'll be getting back on the road shortly. Did you ever get your cruise control problem resolved?


Brad

[bobmiller1]

Alright, so now we all know it was the head gasket....if you are planning on keeping the same injectors you installed I strongly recommend switching to ARP head studs....this is the reason why. Dodge uses a torque angle method of tightening your cylinder head. If you verify you will see that the torque is equal to about 115 ft. Lbs. if torque. The increased power of the new injectors require more torque....approx. 125 ft. Lbs. You don't have to believe me but if you check with other sources you will see I am correct. I would not re-tighten the bolts that are in there now and hopefully they replaced them because they are stretch bolts and after a few heating and cooling cycles they are subject to breaking if you try to increase torque. Regards, Bob

[Vycan]

Team,

Huge relief. Will be glad to get going again.

Bob,

Thanks for the input, have passed along the 125 ft/lb request. They are replacing them.

[Isuzusweet]

Funny thing is, I would just assume that new head studs would be used......People try and re attach diesel heads with old studs???

I guess I'll keep that in mind for the future.

Glad it wasn't something huge....

Cheers
Tony

[bobmiller1]

They don't use studs from the factory...It is common practice to upgrade to studs made by a company called ARP.

[Isuzusweet]

Okay, I didn't know that OEM are only bolts not studs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most head gasket problems, head bolt/stud related; i.e. the stud/bolt stretches too much over time relaxing the pressure on the head gasket, causing failure.

It was very prevalent in the Cadillac/Olds Northstar V8 engines, that the bolts actually stripped out of the aluminum block.

http://www.northstarperformance.com/hgfaq.php

Also just curious. How many times should head bolts be retorqued, a) after initial head gasket replacement, b) over the lifetime of a diesel 6BT or 6BD1A/T?

Yes, this BYMDIY, knows just enough to be a danger to all.

Cheers
Tony

[mayco]

If your motor is running well and you dont detect a head related problem, is it worth the risk of snapping a head stud while retorque ing for preventative maintenance purposes?? I was faced with that decision last fall when I had it in for a valve adjustment. I had requested my mechanic to retorque the head to spec and he brought that up. I chose not to have it done. As you know I have pretty limited mechanical skills/knowledge, so Im asking here..

Mike