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Old 10-09-2006, 08:44 AM   #15
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Thanks everyone:

the 'good' news is that the current drain has dropped in priority - given the death rattle exploding form the lower end of the engine while traveling on the i15 on our second planned adventure.

We are now 0 for 2 and I am seriously beginning to question if our puchasing Ethyl was such a good move. Oh well, I guess I'll resurrect my post about removing the engine!

Anyone know the cost and a good source for a new or recon block?

Cheers,

Andrew


Andrew,

So sorry to hear of your engine's death. (You should probably have bought the 1989 370LE that was on e-Bay about a month ago. Had only 24K miles, and was on a "But It Now" price of $65,000. I could have even gone and picked it up for you .)

Seriously, if you have the money, you might want to check with a good truck repair facility about doing the install, and even about sources of crate engines. I've had good luck on "big" repairs, overall, with a truck facility near where I live. If you can swing the money, you have the resort of going back to them if things are quite right. To remove and replace an engine requires the removal of the entire front of your vehicle, and then reassembling it. People do it, but it's a daunting task. I have no idea what you have in Ethyl($) so far, but if it's not big bucks, it may be worth it to spend some now - assuming you can, and that Ethyl is worth saving overall. Even if you still decide to do it yourself, a good truck repair facility should know where the good crate engines can be gotten.

Please keep us posted on how this goes. I think we all feel your pain to the extent that engine replacements are almost always not too far in the backs of our minds with these aging silver houses.

Best in this task, regardless of what you decide...
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:14 AM   #16
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going to the right to the factory for a new engine might be your best bet.

http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/PartsAcc...4L_Engines.jsp

if you look at what they have available you may even decide to upgrade, GM has a replacement engines for just about every possible application.

and they have a factory warrenty.

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Old 10-09-2006, 09:59 AM   #17
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Thanks everyone:

the 'good' news is that the current drain has dropped in priority - given the death rattle exploding form the lower end of the engine while traveling on the i15 on our second planned adventure.

We are now 0 for 2 and I am seriously beginning to question if our puchasing Ethyl was such a good move. Oh well, I guess I'll resurrect my post about removing the engine!

Anyone know the cost and a good source for a new or recon block?

Cheers,

Andrew
Andrew
I can see you have some soul searching to do at this time. The question is do you have the temperament to become a real "Vintage Fanatic" or a Airstream user. It takes a different type to be on the fanatic side, but it is a real big kick in the keester when your work is done. I for one am of the rebuild fanatic side of the coin, mainly due to the fact that it is more expensive to buy new. Most people can do anything required to rebuild a project with the help of people on the forums. Replacing an engine is a lot of work but it can be done. Try this place as a source http://www.perfectengine.com/category_s/55.htm
Good luck and keep coming back, it works.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:36 AM   #18
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I can see you have some soul searching to do at this time. The question is do you have the temperament to become a real "Vintage Fanatic" or a Airstream user. It takes a different type to be on the fanatic side, but it is a real big kick in the keester when your work is done. I for one am of the rebuild fanatic side of the coin, mainly due to the fact that it is more expensive to buy new. Most people can do anything required to rebuild a project with the help of people on the forums. Replacing an engine is a lot of work but it can be done. Try this place as a source http://www.perfectengine.com/category_s/55.htm
Good luck and keep coming back, it works.
I totally agree with Gary about the soul searching. As Sean Connery said in the Untouchables , "What are you prepared to do about it?" Only you can decide how to handle this, but Gary and John have at least two of your choices laid out. A twist on Gary's is if you don't feel you have the mechanical expertise to do a rebuild, you can always check with your friends and associates at work about performance shops and other mechanical shops that have guys who do this all day. You may be able to do it at your place (or theirs) in partnership on the labor. Having an expert around is always a bonus. Anyway, keep us all posted.

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Old 10-09-2006, 12:20 PM   #19
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Thanks everyone.

To maximize the confusion, I am runnig this same thread in two locations, in the other I wrote:

Thanks Bob:

I am unsure if this is something I can do or not. The expense indicates it is something I have to do, while the equipment needed, and the fact my driveway is not level, suggest the opposite.

I wish there was someone out there who has already performed an engine transplant on an Argosy motorhome... anyone?

Cheers,

Andrew - AKA 'Frightened of Fallbrook!


This pretty much sums up my current situation; darned if I do, darned if I don't!

Cheers again,

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Old 10-13-2006, 03:46 PM   #20
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Andrew, My new Interstate had a similar problem. It turned out to be a speaker with one side wired directly to ground. I wound up using an infra red thermometer (Radio Shack) to search around for hot spots. That much current draw creates heat. Good luck
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:43 PM   #21
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Thank you AZtraveler, I am holding off researching the mystery current drain right now, while I look into pulling out the blown engine. Once the engine is off being rebuilt, I will turn my attention back to this problem.

That is amazing that something as innocuous as a speaker could cause such grief, but then as I am learning, anything is possible with these babies!

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Old 10-14-2006, 08:49 PM   #22
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Compomise is the order of the day

Hi friends:

After much soul searching and balance checking, I (think I) have decoded to get my existing engine rebuilt by a local guy here in town. this way I (currently) feel I have a little more control over what parts are used, and get some more feedback as to what caused these problems originally (age, misuse, sun in Capricorn, etc.)

The mechanic who gladly took my money (inlet gasket, oil cooler leak, etc.) has now decided to leave the shop so there goes that possible recourse, but I hope to hear back from the PO about some sort of compensation. We shall see...

So tomorrow I start the process of removing the blown 454 lump, keep them crossed and please try to stay near your computer, I suspect I'm going to need a lot of advice!

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Old 10-14-2006, 08:54 PM   #23
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Bummer with the engine noise. Sounds like rod/bearing trouble.... But, until it's diagnosed by a good mechanic there's always hope that it's something simple. There were some posts recently about replacing the gas motor with a new diesel. An expensive proposition but it might be worth it. If you're getting in as deep as a full engine rebuild (or replace) then the additional cost might make it worth doing now. Compared to the price of a new diesel motor home it's a bargin.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:36 AM   #24
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:28 PM   #25
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So what did you decide? I was searching the MOHO forums and came across your dillema.
Here's an option we'd all love to have...I'm not sure about gas mileage though... (737 Dirty Harry )
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It's usually pretty close in price to rebuild or replace with a crate motor. Crate motors are brand new with a warranty and even worse... Str8stream says a 502 bolts right in.

I'm glad your fixing it. I'm sure once you getted sorted out you'll be glad you did.
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