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Old 02-04-2010, 05:42 PM   #1
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Looking to buy a 24 or 28 MH to use in UK & Europe but worried 28 will be too big!!

Just wandering if anyone one can give me some advice on buying and driving either a 24 or 28 ft motorhome. I currently own a classic 1961 VW but need more space! However having done a lot of european travelling I'm worried that I wont get onto many of the campsites in a bigger Airstream let alone drive through the small French roads. Really want to upsize to another classic vehicle and am set on a 24 but they seem to be few and far between so am now considering a 28 or 27. Anyone driven one in the Uk or Europe and what is your driving experience? How do you get on, with turning, monouvering,fuelling up, stopping at supermarkets etc. It seems that all european Motorhomes are small, around 20ft and I assume the reason for this is the road network, which makes me think that a large Airstream may just not be practical, (really hope not.)
So anyone with any advice that will help me would be appreciated. Also anyone who knows of a 24 for sale please let me know. Many thanks
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:28 PM   #3
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I'm guessing that the 20' Argosy motorhomes (same basic construction as the Airstream, but available in earlier years than the AS and painted) didn't make it over to Europe in any quantity. They're rather cute little things - maybe it's worth importing one?

Having driven ever so briefly in the UK (my wife is from Birmingham), I worried more about width than length on the narrow roads - but car parks are a lot smaller there too, so I understand the length concern.

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Old 02-05-2010, 04:09 PM   #4
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Thanks for the input guys, i had a look at the FAQ site but it seems to be more orientated towards towing caravans, some useful info that I didn't know though.
I also viited the link about Argosy 20's, I have considered them, but ideally want some sort of division between sleeping areas for us and the little one (something we don't have at the moment thats for sure!). Also really want an Airstream that can be polished up and I've read that the early Argosy's have steel endcaps so I'm not sure how they would work if the rest of the motorhome was stripped back to Ali. I do however like the skylight type windows on the Argosy's, Oh decisions decisions!!
If only I could have the early Argosy but with the ali end caps!!
Thanks again, Tim.
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:53 PM   #5
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airstream in europe

Hi, no problem driving an Airstream in Europe. You need to know what you are doing, but the roads are full with lorries and coaches, so the Airstream can be used. We have been all over Europe with American made motorhomes (at first a Champion, then a GMC Transmode and sine a year an Airstream 250), we never take motorways, but usually stick to the smaller scenic roads. France, Germany, eastern and Central Europe are no problem at all. You may have some hairy moments in the UK, Ireland and Italy mostly because the roads can be pretty narrow and certainly have not been made for US roadholding quality.

Parking at supermarkets and in city centres may be somewhat cumbersome, you may have to skip the first choice and move on to the next. We only use the motorhome on holidays in a leisurely pace. Would definitely not like to use it in everyday traffic.

I know of an Airstrem 24 for sale, it is a project as it is completely stripped. Technically it should be fine but no interior.

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Old 02-06-2010, 05:24 PM   #6
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Hi, think Barend ment my 24 ft Airstream. Just imported and registrated, taxes and all being paid.
Project indeed but technically very well . Lot of work being done allready.
It is sitting in Holland.
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Mail at gjtbraak@nlzorg.net

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Old 02-06-2010, 05:47 PM   #7
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Thanks Barend for the vote of confidence, what are your thoughts on campsites, I do most of my touring in France usually taking 3 weeks in late August and stay mostly on officially sites. Have you ever had problems getting to a site and not being able to fit on a pitch, or even worse not being able to turn around once on the site, I suppose you just find sites that are suitable, a quick e-mail ahead would probably rest my worries. My only other concern is tour the Alps and similar areas but as you say if the lorries can do it there is no reason why a 24' MH shouldn't be able to. thanks also for the lead on the Airstream24 for sale, e-mailed Gert-Jan ter Braak about it this evening,
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Hello VWtim,

I have a 345 (that's 34 1/2 feet long) and I live in Kent in the countryside in narrow lanes no more than 9ft wide, my biggest challenge was getting into my drive ! these rigs are all slightly narrower than a standard 7 1/2 ton truck, they are lower and the lenght will be the only thing to consider. My 345 does have a lot of rear over hang so backing it into tight places that require turning does present a challenge, but day to day travel was easy, even in our narrow lanes. Farmers drive massive tractors and HGV's pick upfrom the farms and manage, so get brave as theres nothing like driving the Airstream in the UK ! good luck,

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Old 02-06-2010, 05:55 PM   #9
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VWTim, just seen your not far away in the south, if you want to pop over and see it in the flesh let me know.

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Hi Tim,

Please drop me a line. My mobile is in your private messages.

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Old 02-11-2010, 05:23 PM   #11
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Hi Paul, Thanks for that, I'll try and get brave! I'm used to towing large trailers (help a friend with his boat haulage company) but not used to a large "unhinged" vehicle if you know what I mean. My concern is the length but I'm impressed you own a 345 in the UK, you must have a pretty big drive and it must cost a fortune on the ferry!
I think I am going to try and look out for a 24 to start with and see how I get on with that, a mear Smart car in comparison! I think my next problem is finding one for the right price.
I'm happy to find out the width is relativly narrow, useful info. THanks, Tim.
May take you up on the offer of a look (gawp!!) at your rig when I'm getting closer to finding something myself, much appreciated.
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Hi Nick, just worked out the message thing, will give you a buzz, cheers, Tim.

By the way is there an Airstream MH club in the UK? anyone know?
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Hi Tim,

There isn't a Motorhome club per se, but there is a group of GMC and Airstream MH owners who have got together in the past. In addition, there are a number of Airstream Trailer and MH owners who have met over the past couple of years at a UK campsite. There is an Airstream campsite in Southern France Airstream mirepoix ariege, camp-site mirepoix ariege, Airstream France, airstream trailer park A friend of mine and I know or are in touch with several UK MH owners.....there aren't that many of us. I also know of two MH in Europe.

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Tim, for what it's worth the wheelbase is the key to maneuverability. I drive my 28' almost every day during my travel season.... starts this week through end of November.

I can park (with care) in a single car spot in most lots where I can back in and hang the tail over a boulevard. In most shopping centers I just take up two deep in a middle row.

I harken back to my teenage driving training at the hand of my uncle who was a Canadian Armed Forces driver trainer. He said, "just look ahead and drive there."

My 28'er drives like a car. I just have an ingrained habit of backing in most everywhere I park.
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