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Old 09-04-2009, 08:15 AM   #29
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There is an Airstream certified repair facility in OK City that does outstanding work. It is family owned they have a website the owners name is Tom.

GRIFFITH RV SERVICE, INC. 8113 SW 15th

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Griffith is a great guy, has done great work for me, is reasonable on parts, but he don't sell and don't do (value) appraisals. He was my first choose. They said I should take it to a AS dealer. None in Oklahoma
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:07 AM   #30
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Fair market value ?

Is there any ins. co. that will give you fair market value? I would like to purchase a 2001 AS Excella, the seller is asking $29.900 and my ins. co, State Farm will only cover up to $14.080 top NADA value !
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:38 AM   #31
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This might sound like a really dumb question but, if the NADA top blue book value is only $14,080, why would you pay $29,900???
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:20 AM   #32
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This might sound like a really dumb question but, if the NADA top blue book value is only $14,080, why would you pay $29,900???
That is the Question, why with this AS or any other used AS that is typically $10K over NADA !
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:39 AM   #33
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We had our appraisal done by a local guy who did personal property appraisals. Like he would go into an estate before the sale and appraise things. So he had a lot of experience in using the net to look up values and research stuff. He took my advice on places to look, came out and looked over the trailer in person, and wrote us up an appraisal for the amount we wanted. I think he cost about $150 for the service, but it was worth it to me for the peace of mind of knowing the trailer was insured for what I consider it's value to be. Like everyone else around here, my 40 year old trailer is worth a lot more than it appears on paper, and I know about what it would cost to find another restored, ready to camp in, Caravel.
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Reminds me of when I had my Corvette....just because of that word, everything got very pricey...
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Old 09-04-2009, 12:09 PM   #35
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The trouble with appraisals is that with a small market, it's much harder to easily get numbers, so you have to find some local guy who is conscientious and won't charge an arm and a leg. I would check with the insurance company to make sure they will accept the appraiser you want. Insurance companies are in the business of collecting premiums, avoiding any risk, and not paying claims. That is not always true, but it's true a lot of the time and you want to avoid that type of situation by covering all bases and making sure the company actually pays claims without major hassles. One of the latest things some companies do is look for something they can claim you did wrong or may have edged the truth about and then they can deny all coverage.

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Glad to know about GEICO - I have had my insurance with them for years on my auto's. I will let you know the outcome of my conversation with them. When my wife got run off the road and totaled her Land Rover I could not ask for a better insurance company. We had a replacenent check in a week. I hope I do not get the guy you talked to.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:54 PM   #37
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Same problem - Low *NADA* Book Value
I have a '90 Excella. Seems most are selling for $8-14,000 depending..

I asked for an 'agreed on value' of $10,000, and they said OK based on an appraisal.

OK, so I have to travel 200 miles to a dealer. Then the dealer said they only use NADA book. I said that won't do as the *NADA value* is only $3500.

Tried another Airstream dealer and got the same answer. I'm afraid Florida will have lower values than GA & S.C.

So I have printed out asking prices for about 10 comparables to show my agent. Don't think that will change any minds, but haven't seen him yet.

I don't have enough receipts showing a higher amount.

I see some of you have found a 'local appraiser', perhaps an estate appraiser. And that any person need to be approved by the agent (Progressive in my case also).

The phone book has about a dozen, mostly estate auction, home, jewelry types. Going to Atlanta next week. Wonder if that's an option.

Any other successes to get closer to market?

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I see some of you have found a 'local appraiser', perhaps an estate appraiser. And that any person need to be approved by the agent (Progressive in my case also).
Progressive didn't care who we used as long as he was a professional. Our guy found comps on eBay and Craigslist, made a nice write up explaining that Airstream trailers have a special following that increases their value like a classic car, and also explained the difference between the value of a restored trailer and an unrestored one.

FWIW I don't think anyone at the insurance company even looked at the appraisal, they just filed it away. I'm sure if anything happened to the trailer, we'll pull it out and argue about it then. They have their copy, I have mine. Since the trailer has made it this long without incident, hopefully we'll never have to test it!
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Going rate for an appraiser..?

Thanks Steph,

That is what I did - find comps on ebay, etc. I may call some of the local appraisers and ask for credentials and rate. Then show him/her all my comps (done last week) and see where that takes me.

Couldn't be worse than the NADA values which are less than 1/2 approx current value. Any type appraiser who seems to work better for you?

BTW, I also talked to an A/S rep who basically said that NADA was *the book* that the insurance companies use unless they had accepted an appraisal. The only way to go.

Best to have this done before you need it!!~

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Since NADA seems to be the accepted standard for vehicle pricing, I wonder what criteria they use to price Airstreams. You know that, regardless of whether or not you have a certified, bonafide, A #1 appraiser telling you what your coach is worth, the insurance company is going to use the lowest possible price to settle with you, in case of an accident. It's all fine and dandy that Airstream has a particular following that is willing to pay through the nose for their product, however the insurance company is not part of that following.

I fear that, in the long run, and given the current economy, NADA will have the final say, and you're going to have one helluva time proving otherwise.
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Foremost will insure for actual cash value (ACV). Be prepared to prove it if you file a claim. I always get an appraisal when ever I do major work to the MH. The appraisal helps to prove your actual cash value instead of relying on NADA.(pronounce it how you will)

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It's all fine and dandy that Airstream has a particular following that is willing to pay through the nose for their product, however the insurance company is not part of that following.

I fear that, in the long run, and given the current economy, NADA will have the final say, and you're going to have one helluva time proving otherwise.
The way I see it, if they are going to use the NADA value of my coach, I don't need insurance, because the NADA value of a 41 year old AS is probably less than my deductible. But I am going to them and saying "I am letting you know that the replacement value of this vehicle is more than you might expect, here is an appraisal to that fact, and I am willing to pay a premium based on the amount you may have to pay out if something happens to it".

Now, other than the fact that I believe all insurance companies are slime, I don't see why that shouldn't clearly spell out everyone's expectations, and insure (ha ha) a smooth transaction in the event of an accident.
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