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Old 05-20-2011, 08:05 AM   #29
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This is a testimonial that they sent me. Anyone know these Airstreamers?
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The idea has been around for a few years. I have met a number of people who were sold on this idea, but no one else who said the contraption actually works.

If you put it in you better hurry though. Tomorrow is Judgemnt Day.
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:05 AM   #30
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I'll have to chime in on this one...

The "hydrogen" system scam was preceded by the "cow magnets" scam, and if anyone remembers the J C Whitney "fire injectors" that add 3 mpg, you're as old as I am.

For free, you can air up your tires, and not use cruise control, for better mileage.

Study up on safe high mileage driving skills, some hyper-mile techniques are not applicable to RVs and a tad dangerous, and some even illegal. I wouldn't coast downhill in neutral.

If mileage is your main issue, go for the Mercedes Sprinter.

There's not much of anything you can do to an old V8 without great expense. Sure, a high lift short duration cam, High compression heads, truly tuned exhaust system, modified intake and distributor advance... It'll all take tons of cash.

Learning to drive with a tachometer and vacuum gauge will help a lot.

The cow magnets are a much cheaper waste of time and money than the hydrogen system.

Put a raw egg between your foot and the gas pedal, and your mileage will greatly improve.

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Old 05-20-2011, 12:34 PM   #31
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Its not exactly hydrogen powered but a little research on some Dodge forums, under $1100 of mods and a weekend of wrenching gave me about 10%+ hp, 20%+tq, much better off-the-line towing power and a noticeable mileage bump in a '99 318 powered Dodge Durango when I can keep my foot out of it.

Stock Dodge 318 mpg: 9 towing / 13-14 city / 17 highway
Streamer modded mpg: 10 towing / 15 city / 19-20 highway

Mods: shorty 50-state legal header $300, lightweight pullys $100, intake $100, port and polish intake manifold for efficiency $200, ignition upgrade $100, Tuner $250, 180d thermostat $10

Hope it helps, if not, ignore me.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:10 PM   #32
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Read the reviews, and gas milage improvements..
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:12 PM   #33
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Its not exactly hydrogen powered but a little research on some Dodge forums, under $1100 of mods and a weekend of wrenching gave me about 10%+ hp, 20%+tq, much better off-the-line towing power and a noticeable mileage bump in a '99 318 powered Dodge Durango when I can keep my foot out of it.

Stock Dodge 318 mpg: 9 towing / 13-14 city / 17 highway
Streamer modded mpg: 10 towing / 15 city / 19-20 highway

Mods: shorty 50-state legal header $300, lightweight pullys $100, intake $100, port and polish intake manifold for efficiency $200, ignition upgrade $100, Tuner $250, 180d thermostat $10

Hope it helps, if not, ignore me.
THIS is the sort of stuff that gets you real gains. No orders of magnitude improvement claims, etc. just basic affordable improvements that return small gains and big satisfaction. TANSTAAFL.
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Keyair/all, you can modify your car to be more efficient if its important to you to spend the time doing so. To decide what to spend money on and what not to spend money on I researched the oem restrictions on model-specific automobile forums and considered my options:

I had to take the OEM Intake Manifold off to replace a gasket (and add the hughes engines aluminum plate mod). Once it was removed, it only cost my time to use the air grinder and cutters to open up my intake manifold like a stage 2.
The Edlebrock manifold doesnt take my core and isn't cheap. Without rods or cams I am not going to move enough air under 4500rpm to notice a difference between my home-made PnP kegger and the Edlebrock Airgap. To really take advantage of that airgap I would need to do throttle body, etc and thats more money and less mileage, which for me was counter productive...
I'm not looking to dump more air or fuel into the motor (increasing power and reducing mileage), Im merely trying to make it less restrictive/more efficient for the motor to intake and exhaust. If anyone needs help understanding or researching their motor for possible mods feel free to PM me. I do my own mechanic/race car work in my spare time and daily drive a 440hp/535tq ethanol powered 2.5L Subaru Legacy so I have a little understanding of motors and tuning. Hope it helps! Sorry for ot chatter...
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So far the rest of the word has made it beyond 6pm in the evening. I think we're going to be ok.

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The idea has been around for a few years. I have met a number of people who were sold on this idea, but no one else who said the contraption actually works.

If you put it in you better hurry though. Tomorrow is Judgemnt Day.
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Save your money. This is total BS. Getting more energy burning the hydrogen and oxygen produced by the cell than the energy you put in is just another version of the perpetual motion machine. The money would be better spent on tune-ups, keeping your tires properly inflated and maybe a low restriction exhaust system.
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Here in Minnesota we've have a few volcanoes light off, but nothing else out of the ordinary.

Oh, and a bunch of naked zombies down by the cemetery. So far a pretty ordinary Judgement Day.
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Here in Minnesota we've have a few volcanoes light off, but nothing else out of the ordinary.

Oh, and a bunch of naked zombies down by the cemetery. So far a pretty ordinary Judgement Day.
If you really want to have some fun, take a pair of pants, shirt and shoes and drive to Walmart. Before you go in the store, drape the "body-less" clothes across the driver's seat. Find a good viewing point and watch.

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OK, how does this sound? A new dual muffler and a new K&N air filter?
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:41 PM   #42
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OK, how does this sound? A new dual muffler and a new K&N air filter?
Hi, dual exhaust is great for cars, but big trucks have big [single] mufflers for low end torque and better fuel mileage, even though the mileage is barely measureable. Dual exhaust and a K&N air filter will make your vehicle sound more powerful, but in reality will do practically nothing. I wouldn't waste my money on either of these. An overdrive might be your best bet. [my opinion]
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