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04-21-2017, 05:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boom Sounds
My limited understanding is that it may be technically possible to get tuner pro rt working and dumping log files in real time via Bluetooth, possibly even with android (tbc)
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If you're using TunerPro RT then you wouldn't need blue tooth. TunerRT Pro is for laptop installations. ALDLdroid is for you phone. One thing I plan to try next time I start the engine up is to load ALDLdroid and then use my ALDL to USB adapter to see if I can connect it to my Samsung Note 4 using an OTG adapter. If that doesn't work then I'll explore an ALDL to bluetooth adapter.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-21-2017, 05:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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To the original poster, swapping a Qjet out for the GM TBI system has its rewards, but it is also a challenge if you are unfamiliar with engines. I have been playing with motors since the 70's but it was still a challenge.
This was my install. The last tab on the page is the "Gremlins" page.
http://theouterlimits.ws/projects/ai...de_Page01.html
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04-22-2017, 02:26 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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I have seen written several times that the MPG you get with a 454 is decided totally by the diameter of the hose delivering the fuel.....it drinks as much as the maximum flow down that line!
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04-22-2017, 03:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 35' Airstream 350
Mentor
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 102
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This is interesting to me as more data would be a good thing. Now I have to look for an OBD1 port on the moho....
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04-22-2017, 04:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
I have seen written several times that the MPG you get with a 454 is decided totally by the diameter of the hose delivering the fuel.....it drinks as much as the maximum flow down that line!
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From my fireman's daZe I do recall that you need to factor pressure, diameter & distance. Fuels have different densities so that can mess up the calculation. If you like calculations, try this page:
http://ipgparts.com/blog/fuel-line-s...ize-do-i-need/
This may be a bit extreme and off topic, but what I have done to get a fairly accurate MPG measurement is to dip stick the tank before and after the trip. To avoid excess weight on short runs I seldom fill the tank to the top and the fuel gauge is useless for getting a accurate fuel level.
I cut a hole in my floor to access the in tank fuel pump that I installed:
I installed a aluminum rod marked for gallons through the port in the lower left of the photo.
As long as I park level to do the measurement, I can get a good indication of my MPG. If I do need to add fuel between measurements, I just add in the pump reading.
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04-22-2017, 04:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dspaw
This is interesting to me as more data would be a good thing. Now I have to look for an OBD1 port on the moho....
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This is where I bought mine that is ALDL to USB:
http://www.reddevilriver.com/aldl.html
That was in 2014 and there may be better options today
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04-22-2017, 06:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
I have seen written several times that the MPG you get with a 454 is decided totally by the diameter of the hose delivering the fuel.....it drinks as much as the maximum flow down that line!
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I have a hunch this probably true
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1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-22-2017, 04:37 PM
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Air345Fly
I remember back when the Chevy big block was new that you could buy
a device that would measure the gas mileage as you drove. The kit had
a sensor that you would put in the gas line and a sensor that you would
put on the drive shaft. There was a display on the dash that showed
your mileage as you went. Modern cars have this built in.
Is there anything like that that you can get now? I am worried about
my heavy foot with my new 345.
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Living in England, paying three to four times as much for fuel than the Yanks on this site; owning a 7.4l V8, driving 16,000 lbs of motorhome over hills and dales; and you're worried about MPG? You've gone and bought the wrong thing mate.
The best mpg fuel economy device you can use is the grey matter between your ears. Keep your speed down, reduce your stop and starts to a minimum, gain momentum ahead of hills, windows closed, travel light as you can with no water and empty tanks; even reduce the amount of fuel you carry, from say 80 gallons to 20-30 gallons will save you 400-600 less lbs you need to cart around.
Weight, speed and stops and starts are your biggest enemy for mpg.
If all that fails to work enough for you, buy a new Volvo big rig and a low loader trailer and trailer it around the country using diesel, or convert the 7.4 to a diesel.
Just my HO.
Cheers
Tony
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04-24-2017, 07:44 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Londonderry
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Pete, you're looking for a Zemco ZT4 or similar system. They were an aftermarket product that fell by the wayside when fuel injection systems became common.
I was going to use one on my 74 Argosy but since I've switched to a throttle body injection system I'm not going to use it. PM me if you're interested in the one that I have.
Brad
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I PM'ed you (I think I did but I am new to this system) and I am interested.
Pete.
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04-24-2017, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Air345Fly
I PM'ed you (I think I did but I am new to this system) and I am interested.
Pete.
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Pete, I didn't receive a PM. I'll send you one with the details.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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04-24-2017, 10:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Pete, I tried sending you a PM but it appears you've selected not to receive PMs from forum members. I sent you an email instead.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-24-2017, 11:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Airstream 250
Oxford
, Oxfordshire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,253
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LPG conversion is viable in the U.K. I could have more than paid for it if I had got my act together. Impco is the way to go, through Nash Fuel.
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