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08-03-2017, 06:16 PM
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#261
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Greg, can you send me a picture or sketch with dimensions of the hose? I have one off of the 345 that might work for you.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-04-2017, 01:02 PM
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#262
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3 Rivet Member
1982 31' Airstream 310
Henniker
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Would a hose designed for a heater core work with power steering fluid??
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When I first got my 310, the PO had replaced the power steering return hose with heater hose. The oil had destroyed the hose. It was swollen and felt really soft. I replaced it with a hose rated for use with oil. I had to flush the system several times and install a power steering fluid filter because the incorrect hose was starting to come apart, contaminating my fluid.
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1982 310 motorhome 502
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08-04-2017, 08:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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Chiefair, I kinda thought that is what would happen. The guy at Auto Zone said a molded heater hose would work fine . The hose he sold me looks like it would fit but, I don't think I will take that chance.
Brad, I believe it is 3/4" I.D. about 28" long with a premolded 90 on one end.
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08-05-2017, 06:05 AM
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#264
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Chiefair, I kinda thought that is what would happen. The guy at Auto Zone said a molded heater hose would work fine . The hose he sold me looks like it would fit but, I don't think I will take that chance.
Brad, I believe it is 3/4" I.D. about 28" long with a premolded 90 on one end.
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Greg, I'll dig out the hose that I have today and let you know.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-05-2017, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Greg, found the hose and it seems to be in reasonable condition and seems to match your description.
PM me your mailing address and I'll get it sent you way.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-20-2017, 04:50 PM
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#266
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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Drove Miss Persey up to Bowling Green for a scrimmage this weekend. She drove well.
Last week I saw a video on youtube that described how the secondaries have a override that won't allow them to open unless the choke is completely open. Looks like that mechanism is missing on my carb. I tied the override out of the way with a zip tie and whalaa! I now have an extra 40 hp.
Got everthing set up to tailgate and when I went to light the grill to serve lunch it would not light?? Whats going on here?? Oh , look the refrigerator light is not glowing, and the water heater light is glowing. Sure enough the propane tank is empty. The gauge still reads full. Is there any trick to testing the gauge to see if it works?
I thought the power steering pump was squealing last week. Drove it 240 miles and the steering worked fine and made no noise at all. This morning I took it out to fill the propane tank and the squealing noise came back. Its a high pitched noise , almost like a shriek or a whistle. I used a stethoscope to seek out the noise to no avail. Funny thing is there is an odd high pitched sound when i touch my stethoscope to the carb body. Could a vacuum leak make such a high pitched whistle?? Does not do it cold, only when the engine as at operating temp.
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08-20-2017, 05:24 PM
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#267
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Drove Miss Persey up to Bowling Green for a scrimmage this weekend. She drove well.
Last week I saw a video on youtube that described how the secondaries have a override that won't allow them to open unless the choke is completely open. Looks like that mechanism is missing on my carb. I tied the override out of the way with a zip tie and whalaa! I now have an extra 40 hp.
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Interesting. I wonder how many other rigs have the same issue.
I have a carburetor from the engine I used in my Argosy. It came from an 81 chevy 1-ton dually. It might have the pieces you're looking for.
Sorry I missed you last week. I'm sure I'll pass that way again
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Got everthing set up to tailgate and when I went to light the grill to serve lunch it would not light?? Whats going on here?? Oh , look the refrigerator light is not glowing, and the water heater light is glowing. Sure enough the propane tank is empty. The gauge still reads full. Is there any trick to testing the gauge to see if it works?
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Are you talking about the magnetic gauge on the tank or the one inside the coach?
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I thought the power steering pump was squealing last week. Drove it 240 miles and the steering worked fine and made no noise at all. This morning I took it out to fill the propane tank and the squealing noise came back. Its a high pitched noise , almost like a shriek or a whistle. I used a stethoscope to seek out the noise to no avail. Funny thing is there is an odd high pitched sound when i touch my stethoscope to the carb body. Could a vacuum leak make such a high pitched whistle?? Does not do it cold, only when the engine as at operating temp.
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Are you sure it's not the alternator belt slipping? I noticed at times on my old 310 that if the battery needed charging after startup the alternator belt would squeal a little. Sometimes a blip on the throttle would get it to stop. Other times it took a while and it settled down on it's own.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-21-2017, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
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The propane tank gas some kind of sensor with a single wire attached. The control panel inside has 4 lights, they all light up indicating the tank is full.
I just replaced both v belts . They seem to have proper tension and seem to run smoothly. I think my next move is to Jack it up and remove the front wheel next time I hear the noise.
We play Middle Tennessee in a few weeks. Looks like you are close to my route. Maybe we could together then.
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08-23-2017, 05:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
The propane tank gas some kind of sensor with a single wire attached. The control panel inside has 4 lights, they all light up indicating the tank is full.
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A single wire? If it only has one wire then that means the transmitter probably has a grounding lug where it fastens to the tank. Most I've seen have two wires from the transmitter. First thing I would check is the connection at the tank.
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I just replaced both v belts . They seem to have proper tension and seem to run smoothly. I think my next move is to Jack it up and remove the front wheel next time I hear the noise.
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I'm curious as to what you end up finding as being the cause.
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We play Middle Tennessee in a few weeks. Looks like you are close to my route. Maybe we could together then.
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I'll PM my address. I'm generally home on weekends but sometime in the next month or so I'll be making a trip back Nebraska to see family.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-28-2017, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
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here is a pic of my propane tank. How does the gauge work? I only see this single wire.
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08-28-2017, 07:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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I got a chance to look into the squealing noise over the weekend. I used a stethoscope to locate the problem. The noise was the most intense at the carburetor. I finally removed the choke assembly to get to the problem. The cause was the base gasket where the carb meets the intake manifold. I torqued the carb mount bolts (about a half a turn) and the noise went away. It's really hard to believe a vacuum leak could make all that noise.
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08-28-2017, 08:13 PM
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#272
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Attachment 293473here is a pic of my propane tank. How does the gauge work? I only see this single wire.
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My first guess is the instrument panel gauge uses the wire from the sending unit on the tank as it's ground feed. The propane tank is theoretically grounded and the sending unit on the tank varies the ground resistance being sent to the instrument panel.
I would suggest removing the sending unit from the tank by removing the 4 screws. Clean any corrosion from where the sending unit fastens to the tank. Then take a resistance reading from the sending unit mounting point to on the tank to chassis ground. You should see little to no resistance.
Next find a magnet that you can use to manipulate the sending unit. Then clean the sending unit. Once it's clean take a resistance reading from the sending unit housing to the single wire while moving the sending unit dial with the magnet. You should see the resistance reading change as the dial moves.
If you get varying readings try reinstalling the sending unit and see what happens.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-28-2017, 08:14 PM
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#273
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
I got a chance to look into the squealing noise over the weekend. I used a stethoscope to locate the problem. The noise was the most intense at the carburetor. I finally removed the choke assembly to get to the problem. The cause was the base gasket where the carb meets the intake manifold. I torqued the carb mount bolts (about a half a turn) and the noise went away. It's really hard to believe a vacuum leak could make all that noise.
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Wow! I never would have guessed that would be the source!
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-29-2017, 04:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Are you thinking I can remove the sending unit while the tank is still under pressure?
I would have never thought the carb could cause such a loud noise. The thing that tipped me off was that my A/F gauge had been reading 14.7 consistently since I repaired the exhaust leak and now it was reading 14.9
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08-29-2017, 05:21 AM
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#275
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Are you thinking I can remove the sending unit while the tank is still under pressure?
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I misspoke on the screws. You remove the two center screws holding the little gauge in place. I'm not sure what the four screws in each corner do.
This is a 2-wire sending unit but physically is just like the one you have. If your sending unit is bad you could probably use one like this and just ground one of the wires.
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I would have never thought the carb could cause such a loud noise. The thing that tipped me off was that my A/F gauge had been reading 14.7 consistently since I repaired the exhaust leak and now it was reading 14.9
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That's interesting. The reading makes since because with the vacuum leak you were sucking in excess air which was leaning out your fuel mixture a couple of points.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-29-2017, 06:19 AM
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#276
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Airstream 250
Oxford
, Oxfordshire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,253
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On the propane query, I think Brad is correct. I don't really understand this so all ca rated. It's grounded through the tank. I had similar query with my knock sensor (single wire) which worked on resistance.
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09-05-2017, 06:58 PM
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#277
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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Replaced the hose from the power steering resivoir to the pump. You can see the old one was shot. Attachment 294107
Brad inspired me to make a new hose from a section of bulk hose. I put a spring inside the hose and wrapped it around a piece of pipe to form a tight radius. I warmed it up with a heat gun and left it set for a few days and it took a nice shape. Worked pretty good😃
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09-06-2017, 04:39 AM
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#278
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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not sure what caused that but, here is the pic.
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09-06-2017, 05:35 AM
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#279
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
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Is that the old hose or the new hose?
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09-06-2017, 07:12 AM
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#280
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Nice!
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