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11-02-2017, 07:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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Originally Posted by mayco
I wish I knew what mine is now rated. The work on it was done before I owned the rig. I meant to look at some of the other hitches while at the get together and never got around to it. I'd like to see one that is still factory so I'd know what all has been added to mine. Its been gusseted and additional support steel from the factory hitch angled up and forward to a cross member between the rails. Hard to get a picture under there.
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Look at post # 18 to see pictures of how I did my 310 hitch upgrade.
Brad
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11-02-2017, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
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Cool, thanks Brad!
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11-02-2017, 10:28 AM
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#2203
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Dazed and Confused
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1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mayco
Cool, thanks Brad!
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I'm rating yours at 5001lbs buddy.
Cheers
Tony
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11-02-2017, 01:31 PM
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#2204
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
I'm rating yours at 5001lbs buddy.
Cheers
Tony
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I was shooting for 5,013 lbs.....
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11-02-2017, 02:34 PM
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#2205
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Dazed and Confused
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1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
I was shooting for 5,013 lbs.....
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If you use a bungee cord from the receiver to your frame, you can have 5,013......but not an ounce more, clear?
Cheers
Tony
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11-02-2017, 02:39 PM
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#2206
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2012
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The before and after pics in post 7 of that link you sent Brad give a good look at an unmodified hitch on a 345. The mods you made to the 310 look like it would pull Johns dump truck.
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11-02-2017, 03:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Went out and got a couple pics of mine. Not nearly as beefed up as what you did Brad but did add some strength in the weakest areas...
Corner gussets both sides, welds look very good
3" x 1/2" flat stock from the back of the 2" tube to the cross member between the frame rails. Probably adds some good added strength to pulling but maybe not as much for stopping.
I think it's plenty strong to carry my motorcycle at about 270lbs wet.
Maybe........going to take a short trip next week with the bike on. The carrier is aluminum and probably in the range of fifty to sixty pounds.
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11-03-2017, 05:02 AM
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#2208
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
If you use a bungee cord from the receiver to your frame, you can have 5,013......but not an ounce more, clear?
Cheers
Tony
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I'll take what I can get
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
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11-03-2017, 05:09 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mayco
The before and after pics in post 7 of that link you sent Brad give a good look at an unmodified hitch on a 345. The mods you made to the 310 look like it would pull Johns dump truck.
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Towing this trailer and car configuration was never an issue. Trailer was probably around 1,000 lbs and the car weighed in somewhere in the 2,100 range. The tool box was typically filled with a LOT of tools, spare parts, etc. and I estimated the towed weight at around 3,500 lbs.
The 454 powered 310 would pull up the grades just fine. Normally I do my own welding but in the case of the welding for the hitch I opted to have a friend of mine who was a certified welder do the final welding. Better safe than sorry!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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11-03-2017, 05:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mayco
Went out and got a couple pics of mine. Not nearly as beefed up as what you did Brad but did add some strength in the weakest areas...
Attachment 298154
Corner gussets both sides, welds look very good
Attachment 298155
3" x 1/2" flat stock from the back of the 2" tube to the cross member between the frame rails. Probably adds some good added strength to pulling but maybe not as much for stopping.
I think it's plenty strong to carry my motorcycle at about 270lbs wet.
Maybe........going to take a short trip next week with the bike on. The carrier is aluminum and probably in the range of fifty to sixty pounds.
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Mike, your hitch is easily good for what your plans are. I might have gone a little overboard on mine due to the first motorhome we owned where the extended rear frame was a real disaster. With a trailer connected to it you couldn't open the entry door located at the passenger side rear of the coach!
Brad
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11-04-2017, 07:49 AM
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#2211
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1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Towing this trailer and car configuration was never an issue. Trailer was probably around 1,000 lbs and the car weighed in somewhere in the 2,100 range. The tool box was typically filled with a LOT of tools, spare parts, etc. and I estimated the towed weight at around 3,500 lbs.
Attachment 298187
The 454 powered 310 would pull up the grades just fine. Normally I do my own welding but in the case of the welding for the hitch I opted to have a friend of mine who was a certified welder do the final welding. Better safe than sorry!
Brad
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Ummm, judging by the size of the car trailer and the one I recently used to move Zippy home, I'd say you're a bit off on the trailer weight........The U-Haul version I used weighed 2000 lbs, 250 lbs more than Zippy. I'm not saying that your trailer isn't lighter......but a 1,000 lbs lighter?
I'm also thinking the car must have weighed less than 2,100 lbs as the burb weight of a Spitfire was 1,600-1,800 lbs.....You didn't use solid tubing for you roll cage did you?
Cheers
Tony
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11-04-2017, 08:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
Ummm, judging by the size of the car trailer and the one I recently used to move Zippy home, I'd say you're a bit off on the trailer weight........The U-Haul version I used weighed 2000 lbs, 250 lbs more than Zippy. I'm not saying that your trailer isn't lighter......but a 1,000 lbs lighter?
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Nope, not off on the trailer weight. The trailer construction was smaller tubing than normally used and less of it as well. If I remember right it had a 14' bed and I eventually added a 16" dovetail to the back. It really was a light trailer compared to others of similar size. I really liked that trailer, it had a nice long tongue and was probably the best one I ever owned.
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I'm also thinking the car must have weighed less than 2,100 lbs as the burb weight of a Spitfire was 1,600-1,800 lbs.....You didn't use solid tubing for you roll cage did you?
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Yeah, you're right. I was thinking of my 64 TR4 with a curb weight of 2,130. I think maybe I've owned a few to many Triumphs
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11-05-2017, 06:15 AM
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Dazed and Confused
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1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Nope, not off on the trailer weight. The trailer construction was smaller tubing than normally used and less of it as well. If I remember right it had a 14' bed and I eventually added a 16" dovetail to the back. It really was a light trailer compared to others of similar size. I really liked that trailer, it had a nice long tongue and was probably the best one I ever owned.
Yeah, you're right. I was thinking of my 64 TR4 with a curb weight of 2,130. I think maybe I've owned a few to many Triumphs
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Yes, a very sweet trailer indeed for that kind of weight.
On a side note; does your X still have the 310, and how did it get that dent in the back end cap?
Cheers
Tony
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11-05-2017, 06:21 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
Yes, a very sweet trailer indeed for that kind of weight.
On a side note; does your X still have the 310, and how did it get that dent in the back end cap?
Cheers
Tony
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Yes, and I don't know how the dent got there. It was there prior to purchasing
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11-05-2017, 07:01 AM
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1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Ebro
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Just to give credit (or blame ) where its due.
It was the sight of Brads rig at the vintage races at road Atlanta about five years ago, that turned on the light for me and led to my 345 that I'm full timing in now.
That was on my first ever RV experence.
A trip with my brother with his 30' classic trailer. Which we parked trackside for the perfect car guys weekend.
Although we Still haven't met is still say BIG MAHALO BRAD!
Cheers Richard
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11-05-2017, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tevake
Just to give credit (or blame ) where its due.
It was the sight of Brads rig at the vintage races at road Atlanta about five years ago, that turned on the light for me and led to my 345 that I'm full timing in now.
That was on my first ever RV experence.
A trip with my brother with his 30' classic trailer. Which we parked trackside for the perfect car guys weekend.
Although we Still haven't met is still say BIG MAHALO BRAD!
Cheers Richard
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Was that shot taken before or after the races?!
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11-06-2017, 10:30 AM
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#2217
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1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
Working in my Garage is like playing TETRIS with Tools!
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11-06-2017, 07:38 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
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A beauty!
Wish I could jump on it
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11-06-2017, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
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[QUOTE=Magnet18;2031490]A beauty!
Wish I could jump on it [/QUOTE
Don't, they dent easily!
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11-06-2017, 08:53 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
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[QUOTE=Keyair;2031503]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnet18
A beauty!
Wish I could jump on it [/QUOTE
Don't, they dent easily!
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Pounce gently then, haha
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