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05-12-2017, 03:28 PM
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#1981
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Ray, I'm probably a little biased but I'd keep the 20'!!
Why don't you start a thread in the Argosy section and post more pictures of your 20?
Brad
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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05-13-2017, 05:39 AM
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#1982
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1995 36' Classic 36
Ludington
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,662
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heyraylata
I'm back... a few weeks ago I listed my 20 for sale with no engine or transmission. Now that I'm on the road I can't decide which one to keep?? Thoughts?
Ray
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Keep em both and join the AS doublewide crowd! [emoji3]
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05-13-2017, 07:27 AM
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#1983
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Airstream 250
Oxford
, Oxfordshire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,253
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Both, then you will have a spare when one breaks down or is in for maintenance
Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
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05-14-2017, 05:33 AM
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#1984
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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05-14-2017, 06:02 AM
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#1985
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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What's interesting is this 1974 Airstream Argosy Motorhome Class C RV 20' very rare on ebay didn't sell the first time around so the seller raised the price by a $1,000!
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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05-14-2017, 07:42 AM
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#1986
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,071
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
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A little WD40 and some duct tape, you're good to go
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05-14-2017, 11:06 AM
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#1987
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mayco
A little WD40 and some duct tape, you're good to go
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What you see in the pictures is pretty much the same as what mine looked like back in 2007
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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05-16-2017, 11:56 AM
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#1988
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Airstream310
Honokaa
, Hawaii
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 993
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05-16-2017, 04:45 PM
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#1989
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Waipio Rim
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I'm guessing the initial bid price is three times less than the reserve.
Granite counter tops? There's some weight savings for you.
Cheers
Tony
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Per Mare, Per Terram and may all your campaigns be successful.
“It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.” "Harry S Truman"
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05-16-2017, 06:23 PM
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#1990
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Rivet Master
2005 34' Classic S/O
2006 39' Land Yacht 396 XL
north blenheim
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,847
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Looks to be in great shape ! Regards, Bob
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05-16-2017, 07:55 PM
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#1991
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Rivet Master
2005 34' Classic S/O
2006 39' Land Yacht 396 XL
north blenheim
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,847
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Correction....after closer inspection...looks to be mint ! Regards, Bob
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05-17-2017, 08:30 AM
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#1992
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3 Rivet Member
1969 31' Sovereign
1982 28' Airstream 280
Edmonton
, Alberta
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 190
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Granite tops
How much does it really matter about weight savings on these motorhomes? Am I wrong with the observation that it doesn't matter what length of rig you have it's still a p30 chassis and the weight range of a 20' or 37' is substantial so the frame can handle it? And the good ol 454, it gets 8-10mpg consistently loaded or unloaded even 5000lb difference in rigs guys still get the same mileage
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05-17-2017, 08:51 AM
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#1993
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,533
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swillv8
How much does it really matter about weight savings on these motorhomes? Am I wrong with the observation that it doesn't matter what length of rig you have it's still a p30 chassis and the weight range of a 20' or 37' is substantial so the frame can handle it? And the good ol 454, it gets 8-10mpg consistently loaded or unloaded even 5000lb difference in rigs guys still get the same mileage
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When Bella was rebuilt I even had light-weight ply made for the cabinetry to keep the weight down. She is only 6800lbs fully loaded and the little 350 small block is more than adequate, up hills and on freeways. With the GV overdrive the best mileage before the emissions work was 12-13mpg, and I got near 16mpg (UK gallon) on the run back from the shop after having that work done. The problem is the bigger rigs/weight need the 454, not that the big block drinks fuel.
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05-17-2017, 08:16 PM
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#1994
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4 Rivet Member
1991 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 298
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Really!
Seems that the Ebay Auction ended with zero bids against the starting price of $15,000!
This doesn't make any sense for what appeared to be a very fine example!
Any ideas what was going on here?
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05-17-2017, 08:21 PM
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#1995
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chriscraw
Seems that the Ebay Auction ended with zero bids against the starting price of $15,000!
This doesn't make any sense for what appeared to be a very fine example!
Any ideas what was going on here?
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It was sold locally......
Cheers
Tony
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Per Mare, Per Terram and may all your campaigns be successful.
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05-17-2017, 08:37 PM
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#1996
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swillv8
How much does it really matter about weight savings on these motorhomes? Am I wrong with the observation that it doesn't matter what length of rig you have it's still a p30 chassis and the weight range of a 20' or 37' is substantial so the frame can handle it? And the good ol 454, it gets 8-10mpg consistently loaded or unloaded even 5000lb difference in rigs guys still get the same mileage
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Weight is the bane of power and acceleration. The old rule for vehicles was; for every 100 lbs you add to your vehicle, you need to add 10 hp to maintain the same performance.
I was weight anal when restoring my 310, the reason being was that for every pound I saved could be a pound of gear I needed to take, or an extra pound of towing capacity.
Surprisingly us moho guys don't have a lot of cargo capacity. Take my rig for example; gutted from front to bathroom with light subfloor installed and lightened counter tops in the rear, no water in the tanks, 3/4 propane and full diesel tank with just me in the drivers seat is the amount in the pic below.
I have a gross curb weight of 14,500 lbs, so minus 12,831 and you have only 1,669 lbs to finish it off with new cabinets, drawers and slides, kitchen and bathroom gear, add flooring, wife, two kids and all their gear and water......well you now know why I was anal about weight.
CAVEAT! It doesn't help that my 5.8l Isuzu diesel weighs 400 lbs more than a 454.
Cheers
Tony
PS I haven't weighed her since I've finished her......I should.
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Per Mare, Per Terram and may all your campaigns be successful.
“It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.” "Harry S Truman"
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05-18-2017, 04:47 AM
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#1997
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
...CAVEAT! It doesn't help that my 5.8l Isuzu diesel weighs 400 lbs more than a 454.
Cheers
Tony
PS I haven't weighed her since I've finished her......I should.
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You could always swap the Isuzu with a 454 and save that 400 pounds
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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05-18-2017, 09:38 AM
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#1998
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1995 36' Classic 36
Ludington
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,662
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
Weight is the bane of power and acceleration. The old rule for vehicles was; for every 100 lbs you add to your vehicle, you need to add 10 hp to maintain the same performance.
I was weight anal when restoring my 310, the reason being was that for every pound I saved could be a pound of gear I needed to take, or an extra pound of towing capacity.
Surprisingly us moho guys don't have a lot of cargo capacity. Take my rig for example; gutted from front to bathroom with light subfloor installed and lightened counter tops in the rear, no water in the tanks, 3/4 propane and full diesel tank with just me in the drivers seat is the amount in the pic below.
I have a gross curb weight of 14,500 lbs, so minus 12,831 and you have only 1,669 lbs to finish it off with new cabinets, drawers and slides, kitchen and bathroom gear, add flooring, wife, two kids and all their gear and water......well you now know why I was anal about weight.
CAVEAT! It doesn't help that my 5.8l Isuzu diesel weighs 400 lbs more than a 454.
Cheers
Tony
PS I haven't weighed her since I've finished her......I should.
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Just for reference, the classic 360 diesel weighs in at very near 16,000 lbs. I unpacked everything and the tanks were all empty except for about 10 gallons of fuel. It's on a 20,000 lb GVW Spartan chassis. That leaves 4000 lbs for water, fuel, propane, camping stuff.
The book limits tow capacity to 2000 lbs.
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05-18-2017, 09:49 AM
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#1999
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,533
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
It was sold locally......
Cheers
Tony
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I am waiting for Bob to confess.....
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05-18-2017, 09:53 AM
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#2000
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
I am waiting for Bob to confess.....
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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