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Old 07-07-2015, 06:38 PM   #1
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Chris's Yankee Clipper 350LE Great Adventure

With Peter H Airstreamer's help (as always) I'm finally learning how to work with the Forum.
I want to combine all my questions and progress of my work on the 1991 350 LE in this thread. I would appreciate any comments, suggestions from Members who are far more experienced than myself. By the way, thanks to everyone for all the guidance getting me back to Austin from Seattle in one piece. I'd still be somewhere on Oregon had I not received your support.
I'm finally getting around to working on the major items that need attention and with help from my fellow MH Classic folks, I can avoid many of the pitfalls of rebuilding these wonderful beasts!
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:42 PM   #2
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Special thanks to smartstream (Dan) for the link to American Carrier Equipment. I'll follow through with them.
Peter..I hope this reply works ?
Here is the system.

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American Carrier Equipment is still in Fresno, CA and they have the parts. You will have to look up the phone number as I don't have it handy. Found the number.
559-442-1500 Phone
800-344-2174 Toll-Free
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Old 07-07-2015, 07:04 PM   #3
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Special thanks to smartstream (Dan) for the link to American Carrier Equipment. I'll follow through with them.
Peter..I hope this reply works ?
Here is the system.

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American Carrier Equipment is still in Fresno, CA and they have the parts. You will have to look up the phone number as I don't have it handy. Found the number.
559-442-1500 Phone
800-344-2174 Toll-Free
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Old 07-07-2015, 07:11 PM   #4
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I am reposting Dan's picture of the system. Chris you may want to check, if your system has a sticker on, which would help ordering the parts.
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my worn out sticker looks like this
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:31 PM   #6
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Dan..thanks very much for this link..invaluable!
As the parts were not described, my guess is that I should order the following numbers>
9 (4)
10 (2)
11 (1)
12 (4)
3 (2)
4 (1)
5 (1)
13 (1)
Did I get this right?
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:32 PM   #7
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Dan..thanks very much for this link..invaluable!
As the parts were not described, my guess is that I should order the following numbers>
9 (4)
10 (2)
11 (1)
12 (4)
3 (2)
4 (1)
5 (1)
13 (1)
Did I get this right?
Thanks again
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Chris the dog bone bushings are #9 and you will need 4-ea. The mounting pins are #10 if they are worn you need 2-ea. The dog bone is #8 if it is worn you need 1. #12 & #13 are common nuts and bolts. There isn't much can go wrong but if you want new any good hardware store will probably be cheaper and you will need 4-ea. I believe they are a nyloc vibration proof nut.

#3 is the bushing for the end of the cross member that hangs from the rear of the spring and there are 2-ea. #4 & #5 are the nut and bolt for that hanger/bushing and you need 2-ea. I believe #11 is the cross member itself and probably not needed.

I did mine about 6 years ago and I think the 4 #9 bushings were about $65, not cheap. They said the dog bone #8 commonly wears and needs replacing but mine was fine so at their prices I only replaced what was worn. I go with the old if it ain't broke don't mess with it theory.
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:23 AM   #8
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....They said the dog bone #8 commonly wears and needs replacing but mine was fine so at their prices I only replaced what was worn. I go with the old if it ain't broke don't mess with it theory.
Dan, don't you think this dogbone is past its useful life and not would serve its function even with new bushings?
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Dan, don't you think this dogbone is past its useful life and not would serve its function even with new bushings?
It could be but I don't know how thick the wall of the bushing is and also if bushing is worn through did the dogbone or the pin take the wear or some of each. Not trying to be a smart a** but I hate to make assumptions before taking something apart and actually inspecting the wear.

I have to disclose that I did my apprenticeship as a machinist at L.A. Dept. of Water & Power. There aren't many parts in a hydro or steam turbine that you can buy off the self. As a result we made or rebuilt just about everything. It was a great learning experience.

Back to that dogbone if it had a worn spot I would probably bore it out and press a sleeve in to restore the bore. The pin is just a piece of bar stock with a hole in each end and a flat spot milled. But I have the machines in my shop and I have the time so I see things differently than most.

When a shop looks at something they tend to replace everything because it's easy, it's somebody else paying for it and there is less risk of comebacks. As somebody who has some technical expertise and is a bit frugal I would rather fix then replace. Again I look at things differently than most.
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:51 PM   #10
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On closer inspection of airbag carrier

Dan (and Peter),
After reading your reply and talking with Peter last night, I crawled under the Clipper and had a good look at the carrier assembly. Here are my notes which also reflect your above comments:-
1. carrier ID plate is there but at some time, a PO sprayed under-body goo (sound/rustproofing, not sure) but this completely covered the name plate so no ID
2. my assembly looks "exactly" like the exploded parts list so I'm confident that bushes ordered from this config will fit.
3. dog bone #8 looks OK and is not bent or worn..just missing bushes and flopping about
4.pins #10 look OK and are not bent
5. pins #4 are fine but need new #3 bushes
So based on this assessment and your comments, I'm going to replace:
#9 bushes (4 each)
#3 bushes (2 each)
and of course the airbags themselves.
Thanks chaps for sorting this out with me!
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Old 07-08-2015, 07:04 PM   #11
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American Carrier Equipment is now
American Carrier System - Manufactureing Air rides
tel (559)441-1460
Called to late to speak to an expert but the office guy checked and said the parts I needed were in stock. I'll need to call back tomorrow to confirm with pricing, shipping etc
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spoke to Nancy at American Carrier and confirmed the above bushes and added the two pins as it seemed a bit cheap to put the old pins in brand new bushes.
#3 were $12.14 each
#9 were $12.65 each
#10 pins were $23.50 each
BTW new dogbones are available at $55.57
shipping is around $9 to Austin.
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:54 PM   #13
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Oh dear!!
I did not realize that the RV refrigerator should not be operated on a slope and wondered why it was running hot not cold when I tried to pre-cool it on our sloped driveway (off the 110 volt).
Now I know and before I try again (on the level) is there anything I should know or do before turning the fridge on and cause reversible damage? I'll also post this on my page and see if anyone else has some "warnings"
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:32 AM   #14
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airbag replacement 101

The following is for the record, and if you fell relevant, and please feel free to publish this on the Forum (or tell me how and where)
Replacing airbags and carrier bushes on a 1991 Airstream Classic 350LE
1. never attempt in the middle of a Texas summer unless you and your AS are floating in a large swimming pool or river!
2. allow 3-5 days so as not to get too stressed-out and have a ready supply of mind numbing beverages
3. chat with the boys at American Carrier (Phil, Mark and Dave) to make sure you're ordering all the parts you may ever need and more. These guys are great and truly helpful.
4. don't push-out or toss away any bushes until you've received the replacements so as to make sure that they all will fit etc.otherwise, "Dumpster diving" is sure to follow.
5. HERE"S THE BIG ONE....locate the top of airbag mountings on the cross member (using a ruler, stethescope, GPS or a divining-rod and using a 6" "hole saw" open a hole directly above the top of the airbags. Yes, I know this is radical and the hole saw costs around $40 but believe me, this will save you hours and hours of anguish. Note that even if you succeeded in removing the two holding bolts that secure the top of the airbags without an access hole, due to electrolysis, the brass "T" compressed air fitting will have sealed itself into the metal cap. Before you undo the retaining bolts,be prepared to use a pneumatic jack hammer to shear-off the brass "T" fitting and have replacements available for the reinstall!. Before you say, "that's way too radical" believe me, trying to secure the new airbags without top access is near to impossible.
6. With access now staring at you, a 9/16" socket with a universal joint and ratchet will get both the removal and re-install jobs done in time for cocktails!
7. installing the new airbags and air supply line will require two people, one with infinite patience and small hand to thread the bolts into the top of the airbag and connect the supply lines (if working with a "significant other", be prepared for a considerable friendly dialogue!)
5. A 6" galvanized cap/cover (Lowes or Home Depot) will fit neatly in the hole (use the hole piece you cut-out to re-enforce the cap/cover). Now you will have ready access to the top of the airbags for the life of your AS and this mod may even become a "Selling Point" to an unknowing future owner (s)
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