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Old 03-22-2007, 09:57 PM   #1
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Bought it - Classic 360 Diesel - Now what ?

OK, after flying across the continent and spending hours crawling all over a rare 1995 Classic 360 Diesel, I have agreed to purchase it and will pick it up next month.

I've already arranged to replace all its perished tires, and will arrange an oil change on it when I pick it up. Brakes on it are OK, and Air Conditioning and Genset are fully operational and appear healthy. Powertrain (remember this is the Cummins Turbo Diesel and Allison 6 speed tranny) was functioning well during a fairly lengthy test drive in the Arizona sun earlier this week. It only has 42000 miles on it, has been used fairly regularly until about 18 months ago, and was serviced only 2000 miles ago with replacement fuel filters and air filter. I consider myself very mechanically and electrically capable (and no doubt overconfident....) as I have diagnosed and resolved most issues with my current 345 by myself.

Now the fun part - what would any of you do in addition to what I've checked or mentioned above before heading across country from Arizona to Ontario with this coach? What tools or parts would you pack along? I will be flying back, so bringing most of my well-equipped shop is out! I have already planned for a voltmeter, a decent socket set and screwdriver set and will raid my repair kit in my current 345 for ideas (hose clamps, wire, connectors, misc bolts and screws, etc)

As crazy as flying from Ottawa to Phoenix and returning the next day was, I fear I may be embarking on an even crazier journey, that of ferrying it back home in a one week drive of approximately 2600 miles from a desert climate to the "great white North" !

Looking forward to your suggestions and comments, as I prepare for my second Airstream MoHO. (Anyone interested in a nice, well loved, 345......)

John
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:10 PM   #2
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Sounds so good.
Squeeze the coolant hoses and look for cracks. Remember: oil and water.
Bring plenty of money, sense of humor, lots of water and patience.
A good companion that will either do as instructed or one with more experience than you would be a real plus. Faith and Good Luck are two of my favorites.
How about papers to get it over the border?

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Old 03-22-2007, 11:03 PM   #3
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Fresh Diesel fuel and clean fuel filters are a Diesel's best friend. Low mileagse in this case measn lots of time sitting around with Diesel in the tank. From your description, thatwould be one of the very few things to worry about.
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Old 03-23-2007, 06:31 AM   #4
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Good suggestions so far. I am going to try and pick up some spare hoses as the current ones looked OK during inspection but there was no record of replacement of them. A fresh tank of diesel should be good, it was only 1/4 full when I tested it so filling it up will provide fresh fuel.

Patience is something that I'll have to work on, I am trying to convince my wife to fly down with me for the trip back (the scenery in Arizona was spectacular !)

Paperwork for import is under control as I researched this before inspection and have previously imported a car. Of course each experience with the bureaucracy tends to bring new challenges!

Any other ideas for tools or other things to bring along? Anyone know of a good site on the web for more info on the Cummins turbo diesel and the Allison transmission? The transmission in particular is interesting given that it is electronically push button controlled. As a mechanical engineer I have an inherent mistrust of all things electric (or perhaps that is because of all the British cars I've owned with Lucas electrics....)


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Old 03-23-2007, 07:04 AM   #5
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Great Find!

At 42K miles, the engine isn't even broken in yet!

I would contact Cummins and get a listing of their natioinal dealer network, along with the Allison/Detroit Diesel shops. This coulld be invaluable 'IF' you have a mechanical issue that you can't resolve.

I would also get the trans serviced BEFORE departure, and check the rear trans seals. My '98 Monaco Dynasty MoHo had issues there a few times.

Good luck on your trip!
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Old 03-23-2007, 08:38 AM   #6
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I recently bought this little GPS navigator, a Garmin i5. Really love it for it's portability and ease of use. A siilar item might comein handy on a cross country trip, just for ease of mind and finding out what the next exit has to offer...
As far as tools go, I'd think that if you bring/buy a basic set of hand tools to keep in the coach, you will be fine. Most things US made can be either fixed with a 1/2in wrechn and a phillips screwdriver, or require an arsenal of special tools that you won't want to drag around anyway.
Oh, bring Duck tape.
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:16 AM   #7
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You can take a basic wrench and socket set with you, a couple of screwdrivers, a pair of pliers, and a hammer. More than that will probably be more than you will want to tackle in the field anyway.
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:36 AM   #8
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Adding 3/4's of a tank of fresh diesel fuel IS NOT THE SAME AS FRESH FUEL! I would highly suggest having the fuel tank emptied, checked and then filled with fresh fuel. It is not a great experience to have fuel problems on the highway. I recently helped a fellow change his diesel fuel filters in a New Mexico rest area. He also had just purchased a low mieage unit that was only 5 or 6 years old but had sat around most of its life. He had changed the fuel filters and added more fuel. However, sludge/water/sediment in the tank plugged the new filters after only 500-600 miles. We changed the filters and got him going again so that he could get to the next dealer and flush the fuel system. This would not be a problem with a unit that has had several fills each year.

One last piece of advise. Take a friend on the trip. You probably will not have any problems. But, if you do, your wife may always remember them and not trust the MH in the future. The last thing you would want to hear is: "Tell me again why we had to travel 2600 miles to another country to buy this ..... .. ....". You have a great new unit, enjoy!!!!!!!
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Congratulations! I always thought that would be the model (and engine) I would want if I were to go motor home. Next to a Provost, that is. Anyway, enjoy your trip home and many more in your new Airstream!
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Old 03-23-2007, 11:03 AM   #10
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Some excellent suggestions that I had definitely not considered. I will certainly get the list of Cummins and Allison shops. Hand tools mentioned are pretty much what I had in mind.

Wayne, you are of course right about the potential fuel problems from a sitting unit. This rig did have new filters 2000 miles ago and has been used regularly, but only on shorter trips. At the very least you have convinced me to get some spare filters for the lines to have in the event that the fuel is contaminated but I will check into getting the entire system cleaned before departure.

The words of wisdom about taking a friend seem like very good advice (is this a voice of experience ?). As my wife is somewhat reluctant anyway, due to work and holiday constraints, this may be a much better way to proceed. I have an old friend who is in Winnipeg, who might like to join me for the road trip. On the other hand, my wife has tolerated years of bringing home oddball vehicles, some from up to a days drive away with a myriad of issues. This coach is definitely from further afield though, and your point is an excellent one !

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Download all 40 episodes of theVAP for something to listen to on the way back.

Or to lull you to sleep when you're parked for the night stress out about what you're really doing,
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:49 PM   #12
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Cool ! I didn't even know about theVAP.

Thanks Tim!
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:59 PM   #13
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Congrats On Getting The Last Of The Breed!!!! All Suggestions Are
Great....we Just Came Back From Arizona In Our 310. Be Sure To Find
Out Where The Fuel Filter(s?) Are & Carry Them On Board. With The
Cummins You Should Have No Problem Getting Them. Diesel Fuel
Seems To Be Getting Worse, I Swallowed One In New Mexico With
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:38 PM   #14
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Congrats! Sure you will like your motorhome. We have full-timed in ours for a year and a half, and love it! You can expect 10 - 12 miles to the gallon ( US ) . Good luck. Hope to see you on the road! Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions we might be able to help with. Diesel Phil and Sandra K.
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