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Old 10-23-2010, 01:37 PM   #1
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The Silver Hornet has an engine air conditioner that was manufactured by ARA in Dallas Tx. Many 1970-1989 Motorhomes had these units installed by the manufacturer. My AirStream is a Model 310 Limited 1984. If anyone has an ARA manual, either service manual or owners manual I would like to get a copy and am willing to pay for it. Please let me know if you can help.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:51 AM   #2
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Hey! I took the compressor and affiliated hardware off the engine of my '84 310 LTD to reduce front suspension loading, after we had two ball joint failures. Now we have no dash A/C b ut we don't miss it. The generator and roof A/C units are intended for use while driving, and that system works fine.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:53 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info on the A/C. BTW, which ball joints failed? Upper or Lower? Most common causes of Ball joint failure are Lower (lack of lubrication) Upper (Improper wheel balance) P30 Chassis are loaded pretty heavy but the best I can find out the 310 is not overloaded.

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Old 10-27-2010, 03:20 AM   #4
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We have to manually move the heat/ac gate under the hood on the curbside, under the hood....less a pain than replacing, at this point...works well, but isn't much fun in the rain...the shower curtains hung just behind the front seats DO improve cabin comfort...
i'd call them tacky, but...wait...!!! I AM tacky...m
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:32 PM   #5
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We have to manually move the heat/ac gate under the hood on the curbside, under the hood....less a pain than replacing, at this point...works well, but isn't much fun in the rain...the shower curtains hung just behind the front seats DO improve cabin comfort...
i'd call them tacky, but...wait...!!! I AM tacky...m
I thought about having drapes made to close off the cockpit area when I got drapes made. Then I got new drapes made and just now remembered I wanted to do that too.
The brain is the first thing to go..... I think.
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:10 PM   #6
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This thread seems to be dead since 2010 however, i'm going to see if anyone is still interested or indeed able to provide some "know-how".
(1) How do you get to the blower motor and the under dash AC exchanger? which is housed under the dashboard and paneling without literally removing the whole mess?
(2) I need to replace the front engine mounted evaporator (?) which is leaking from previous attempts to weld/solder connections. anyone know of a replacement source?
(3) I've already replaced the heater valve with a "H" under hood manual diverter valve (living in Texas..who,needs a heater anyway!) as well as a remanufactured compressor but now realize that a wholesale upgrade to a newer system may be the answer. Has any one ever attempted what appears to be on par with a heart transplant without anesthetic!
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:21 AM   #7
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Mine has a panel in front of the passenger seat that pulls out. The motors are right there.

This may be your condernsor: https://www.gmpartscenter.net/oe-gm/...MWNRoCfpXw_wcB

I haven't got mine to work after the engine/transmission transplant. But then now I have a dodge compressor that came with the motor, so I don't know if it worked before.
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I hope for your sake that it's different on a 1991 than it is on my 1979 but, to get to my a/c blower you have to remove the entire dash.
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Mine has a panel in front of the passenger seat that pulls out. The motors are right there.

This may be your condernsor: https://www.gmpartscenter.net/oe-gm/...MWNRoCfpXw_wcB

I haven't got mine to work after the engine/transmission transplant. But then now I have a dodge compressor that came with the motor, so I don't know if it worked before.
Many thanks for the link..looks about right but need to check dimensions against the current unit. Unfortunately, the GM spec does not include dimensions so will need to call and see if they have these.
I've attached a couple of pics of the panel you may be referring to. How is this panel held in place as I'm afraid to keep trying to lever it out...seems these are either hidden screws or clips?
Sorry about the pics being rotated but have yet to understand how to load images into this Forum and rotate?
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I hope for your sake that it's different on a 1991 than it is on my 1979 but, to get to my a/c blower you have to remove the entire dash.
I'm beginning to think you are correct however, there is no way I'm ever going to remove the entire dash to get at the condenser..I'd rather mount a very ugly under dash AC on top of the Airstream dash and supply the rig with equally ugly pipework snaking-up from the engine compartment!
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Tried this!

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Hey! I took the compressor and affiliated hardware off the engine of my '84 310 LTD to reduce front suspension loading, after we had two ball joint failures. Now we have no dash A/C b ut we don't miss it. The generator and roof A/C units are intended for use while driving, and that system works fine.
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Even with the rear compartment closed-off with the expanding door panel and assisted by a floor mounted 110v fan, the front A/C is no match for Texas sun beating down through the greenhouse windshield...I really do need the dash A/C to be working a full blast as well.
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On my 1987 345 that panel was held in place by a few screws around the edges. Behind that was a metal box that when the cover was unscrewed contained the heater core, ac air cooler thingy, and the blower in the bottom. I changed out the blower as mine was frozen but the one I got is terribly underpowered. I need to find a better replacement or a booster fan of some sort.
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Even with the rear compartment closed-off with the expanding door panel and assisted by a floor mounted 110v fan, the front A/C is no match for Texas sun beating down through the greenhouse windshield...I really do need the dash A/C to be working a full blast as well.
I understand the HEAT! W/o the dash air it's just plan hot here in Okla too. Running the generator, both top a/c isn't the same as having cool air in your face.
I replaced the front roof 13,500 Coleman a/c with a Carrier 15,000 btu and it still not enough while going down the road.
Think I'll go squirt some die in my a/c and see if I can see the leak with the colored glasses and the little light. May be a problem being I'm color blind in red and green.
Glad I put more A/C in my shop then I have in the house. But then I'm in my shop more than I'm in the house.

BTW That panel is just stuck in there on mine. Now screw, no clips, just friction.
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So more thoughts

I suspect these vintage AS motorhomes were never designed to operate in either Oklahoma or Texas. I plan to launch a class action suit against Airstream Using the "Freedom of Information Act" to obtain internal memoranda that clearly unveils a dark corporate conspiracy to limit AS motorhome sales north of the Mason-Dixon line so as to justify the use of the P30 "bread van" chassis A/C components and acres of glass instead of expensive aluminium. My attorneys, "Messrs Sue, Grabbit and Rune are preparing this brief to be filed in El Paso in the middle of next summer!
In the meantime, I've located 2 screws that appear to be holding the panel in place. My hope is to retrofit a blower/condenser from Red Dot (R-9727 Off-Road Air Conditioner (see pic) A/C unit (pictured above) mounted smack-dab in-front of me on top of the massive AS dashboard. As the same time have my front windows LLumar ceramic.
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