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Old 04-29-2014, 10:24 PM   #15
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Dryrot!!!

OK, Time to get my hands dirty. Just as I suspected, dry rot!!! There was a fair amount of rain water intrusion during my initial inspection so I'm not at all surprise to find it. I spent the day removing the couch, dinette seating area and captains chair and seat belts to get to the soggy stinky carpet. Once the carpet was removed, it exposed still very wet degraded plywood. It was so bad in some areas that I was able to just scoop it up with my hands and then I finished it off with a shopvac. I also found a rat's nest and plenty of mouse poop, I happy clean it up. I definitely don't want my little kids getting sick from breathing in mouse poop and mold. All in all, it took about 6 hours to remove everything.

I will be spraying a water and bleach solution everywhere and pointing an air mover at it to make sure I kill all the funk. Its already starting to smell better without the carpet. I'm actually having a lot fun even if this the messy phase of this project. I'm taking my time, absorbing everything and coming up with remodeling ideas and making sure that I got all my bases covered. I'm not new to remodeling projects but definitely new to RVing.

I'm researching sound and heat deadener products and the plan is to install it under the plywood sub floor and another layer under the new flooring. I think we have decided to go with cork flooring with carpet in the cockpit area.

I know there is dryrot in the rear also, so I'll post an update when I get to it.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:32 PM   #16
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Check with KeyAir (Steve) about Mass Loaded Vinyl for sound absorption. There are other types of sound proofing available as well. To me, whatever works best, with the lightest weight.....
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Old 05-01-2014, 12:58 AM   #17
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The list of to dos, new captains chairs, the existing chair is broken and the other is totally uncomfortable for long trips. New air bag suspension, the old ones are bad, will need to replace bushings also. I found multiple locations of dry rot mostly in the front and back. I will replace the subfloor in most areas and install wood flooring through out with carpet in the cockpit area. I would like to get some feedback if there are others out there who had installed wood flooring since I have not installed wood flooring on something that moves. Sound proofing!! that diesel motor is pretty loud. Reupholster the couch and design new seating area. Install new refrigerator and modify casework surround. Remodel bathroom with new vanity and finishes. I like to shoot/ paint the interior a brighter white color, I do not care for the almond color at all. Has anyone done this? How durable were finishes. And finally, remove clear coat and buff exterior shell.

Wish me luck!!! here are some pics.
Hi, unless I missed it Dan/Smartstream didn't mention the wonderful wood floor that he made/installed in his motorhome.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:31 AM   #18
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Hi, unless I missed it Dan/Smartstream didn't mention the wonderful wood floor that he made/installed in his motorhome.

Ah Bob you are making me blush now. Actually there are pictures of it somewhere around here but I have long since forgotten where. Maybe somebody can do a search for it. I would try but I never have figured out how to make the search work, very frustrating.
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Ah Bob you are making me blush now. Actually there are pictures of it somewhere around here but I have long since forgotten where. Maybe somebody can do a search for it. I would try but I never have figured out how to make the search work, very frustrating.

Hi, a few pictures of Dan's floor.
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:29 AM   #20
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Man that didn't take you long Bob. Now you have to find a picture after Irene reupholstered the barrel chairs, they look pretty ratty in those pics.
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Old 05-01-2014, 07:01 PM   #21
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Nice work Dan!!! What type of flooring is that? What type of underlayment did you use?Did you feel the assembly help with the acoustics?....I wasn't planning on putting in wood flooring in the driver area but I have to admit it looks great!! I may need to revise my plan.
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Nice work Dan!!! What type of flooring is that? What type of underlayment did you use?Did you feel the assembly help with the acoustics?....I wasn't planning on putting in wood flooring in the driver area but I have to admit it looks great!! I may need to revise my plan.


Thanks Portland, it was a bit of work but it seems to be working pretty well. I tried a cork floor and really liked it but we travel with a Great Dane and his claws went through the cork really fast.


I went to Lumber Liquidators and they had a chart showing relative hardness of the different woods and also dimensional stability with humidity changes. The wood is Brazilian Teak and it is very hard and very stable. It is solid 3/4" wood and clear polyurethane with no stain so I could refinish where I had to do some mill work. It is glued down and screwed down directly on the plywood. As far as the acoustics I can't really say. It may be a little better but I have been driving diesels for years so maybe I'm just used to it. You are more than welcome to take ride in it if you like, we are not too far away.
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I don't mean to blow my own horn, but give another Classic Moho owner any help I can. I have been where you are and understand the "Oh CRAP" feeling but just remember, anything can be fixed, and as you fix things you will better understand how she's built and how she works. That way if something happens to you down the road you won't be scared to dive in and fix it yourself.

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I will be installing a Torly's engineered hardwood flooring this spring. It's an excellent high quality product, click locks without glue so you can make repairs if necessary. It has a cork backing for sound, but I also got the Torly's 5in1 sound deadening underlay. The nice thing about an engineered flooring is it's easy to repair and replace a plank, it floats, so removal is a breeze should you decide to change it. It's also quite a bit lighter than a completely solid wood and has better sound deadening qualities.

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Dan, that certainly is a beautiful floor. I see a lot of work and elbow grease in it.

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I don't mean to blow my own horn, but give another Classic Moho owner any help I can. I have been where you are and understand the "Oh CRAP" feeling but just remember, anything can be fixed, and as you fix things you will better understand how she's built and how she works. That way if something happens to you down the road you won't be scared to dive in and fix it yourself.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311...me-106269.html

I will be installing a Torly's engineered hardwood flooring this spring. It's an excellent high quality product, click locks without glue so you can make repairs if necessary. It has a cork backing for sound, but I also got the Torly's 5in1 sound deadening underlay. The nice thing about an engineered flooring is it's easy to repair and replace a plank, it floats, so removal is a breeze should you decide to change it. It's also quite a bit lighter than a completely solid wood and has better sound deadening qualities.

PM me at anytime to ask anything.

Dan, that certainly is a beautiful floor. I see a lot of work and elbow grease in it.

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Thanks Tony, It did indeed present some challenges but it's done now and I don't plan to ever do it again.


Portland has a great opportunity to play with an empty coach, working around obstructions can be a bear and the teak chews up saw blades right now.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:07 PM   #25
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Thank you all for your input! It’s been awhile since my last post but believe me the Airstream has not been far from my thoughts. I ran into a string of bad luck that really slow down my restoration project. First off, the motor blew on my 2005 Ford diesel in Montana and I had to get it transported back to Portland to install a newer used motor. This was a costly repair and took away funds originally intended for the Airstream. Secondly, someone snuck into my barn and stole the tools that I was using for the project. This was not a major setback but certainly hurt morale.
Back to the project! As you know, I’ve found dryrot in both the front and back of the MH which I had full awareness of at the time of purchase. I used the same process as another forum member (Mayco??). The couch, sitting area, beds, water tank, etc were removed to get to the dryrot. Once the dryrot was removed, I filled all holes with Vulcum. Foam underlayment was laid down and covered with ” HDO plywood (commonly used as concrete form and known for its water repelling properties). The edges of the plywood was dadoed so it can be tucked under the wall channel and finally fastened with #14 self-tapping screws. I then screwed off the existing plywood floor with #10 self-tapping screws since there was a lot of lifting and evenness.
The floor repair was more labor intensive than I expected and am very happy to be done with it. Next on the to-do list, strip the exterior clear coat and prep and paint the interior before the summer is over. Also, the barn will need to be insulated in preparation for the winter projects.
My winter project goals are to install flooring, re-install the furniture that were taken out, install a new refrigerator and some associated casework/millwork and captain’s chair.
Wish me luck!
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:02 AM   #26
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Sorry to hear of your setbacks Portland. Hang in there, these are long term projects for most of us keepers of the classics.

You seem to be well under way to bringing your coach back to useful life.

I've had my 345 for a year now and have lived aboard for most of the time and really like the feel of the homey interior space. As you complete the removal of the funk, and get the interior going back together your reward will be clear.
Got to find those leaks and get them fixed.

All the best in your restoration
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