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10-03-2015, 09:01 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 31' Airstream310
Bossier City
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 26
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310 Front Floor Removal
Hi found some damaged floor in the front passenger area. Floor held down with very large screwheads.
Are these screws (tapped into metal framing or like bolts with nuts and washers?
How do you remove them? what tools needed? -- my drill with bit doesn't work.
Thank You for your help
Gman1957
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10-03-2015, 10:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman1957
Hi found some damaged floor in the front passenger area. Floor held down with very large screwheads.
Are these screws (tapped into metal framing or like bolts with nuts and washers?
How do you remove them? what tools needed? -- my drill with bit doesn't work.
Thank You for your help
Gman1957
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I'm not exactly sure what Airstream was doing in 83 for fastening the floors down but on the 86 models they used screws similar to what you're describing that were self tapping and in between each of those screws they used nails. The nails were the twisted shank type that sort of act like a screw once they are shot into the wood.
When I was dismantling the 345 there were two methods that I used to get the screws and nails removed, one was to use a cutoff wheel in 4-1/2" grinder to cut the heads off and the other was to use a torch to burn the heads off. Of the two the torch method worked the best as I was able to burn through the bolt and the wood.
For you the torch is likely not an option so you will probably have to resort to the cutoff wheel method.
Of course you might get lucky and they will unscrew but don't get your hopes up on that method.
Good luck!
Brad
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10-03-2015, 11:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 32.5' Airstream 325
Lindsay
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 479
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Gman1957
Those are called elevator bolts they have a heavy Phillips head. You need the right size bit and a impact driver. Use a heavy hammer and a heavy punch to give the head a couple of good hits then use the impact driver to remove.
The nails are 1 1/4 concrete nails use a large crow bar to remove
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10-03-2015, 11:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 31' Airstream310
Bossier City
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 26
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I'm at work and going by memory but I believe the screwheads were like large 3/4" widths.
Just need to do passenger side where captain's chair is located
Thank you so much for helping
John
Gman1957
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10-03-2015, 03:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shepherd57
Gman1957
Those are called elevator bolts they have a heavy Phillips head. You need the right size bit and a impact driver. Use a heavy hammer and a heavy punch to give the head a couple of good hits then use the impact driver to remove.
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I will admit my reason for choosing the two methods I tried was for speed. I couldn't take the chassis to the scrappers until the wood decking was removed. So time was more important than neatness
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The nails are 1 1/4 concrete nails use a large crow bar to remove
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I never tried prying them out. They were buried below the deck surface and it didn't seem worth the effort. I've often wondered why Airstream chose that type of nail on the decking. My best guess was for speed in construction.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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10-03-2015, 07:08 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 32.5' Airstream 325
Lindsay
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Brad
On my 85 32.5 the nails are all that Airstream used what a P I A to remove along with the OSB.
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10-03-2015, 09:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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John, that 86 345 had nails and those elevator screws. My first attempt at getting the wood floor up entailed just cutting the heads off those elevator screws with a cutoff wheel. It wasn't until I tried prying the wood up that I realized there were nails as well. Needless to say I was pretty ticked off at that point. That's when the cutting torch was put into play!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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10-03-2015, 11:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1936 20' Clipper
1947 22' Liner
Curtis Wright
1989 37' Airstream 370
marshfield
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Use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel. If you don't own one, it will be one of the best tools you'll ever buy. It will give you a nice flush cut in some really tight spots, and you will never waste your time wrestling with a fastener again. I like the Milwaukee heavy duty version. With enough cutting wheels you could take down a whole building.
Remember the safety glasses!!!
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10-04-2015, 01:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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10-05-2015, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
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I just had the entire front of my 1979 MH apart last summer. The plywood was installed with elevator bots. Most of them were so corroded that I chiseled the wood out from around them and grabbed them with a visegrip. As I recall most of them snapped off. If they came out great , if they snapped off I just ground them down flush with a 4" grinder. There are some pictures in my thread 'Count down to kick-off'.The pictures may give you a better idea of what you are getting into.
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10-06-2015, 01:03 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 31' Airstream310
Bossier City
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 26
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Thank You ALL!!
I now have a better idea whats in store for me.
HiJoeSilver that is exactly what they seem to look like!
Gregsch I will look up your thread
John
Gman1957
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10-06-2015, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman1957
Thank You ALL!!
I now have a better idea whats in store for me.
HiJoeSilver that is exactly what they seem to look like!
Gregsch I will look up your thread
John
Gman1957
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Now you'll know where to get new ones. They're supposed to be self tapping but a pilot hole makes them go in a lot easier.(5/32 or 3/16")
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10-07-2015, 10:48 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 31' Airstream310
Bossier City
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 26
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Thank You Again -- They removed pretty easily and the new plywood piece is being cut and installed!!
John
Gman1957
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10-07-2015, 02:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman1957
Thank You Again -- They removed pretty easily and the new plywood piece is being cut and installed!!
John
Gman1957
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Wow! Why don't I ever get that lucky?!
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1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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