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Old 01-16-2013, 07:32 PM   #1
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310/345 dash top removal

I need to run a wiring harness from the passenger seat side pocket where the cigarette lighter is all the way over to the drivers seat side pocket where the cigarette lighter is. I'm looking for guidance on how to get the plastic dash cover off so I can get access to that area.

Any one been down that road and if so do you remember how you did it?!

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Old 01-16-2013, 10:22 PM   #2
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It might be easier from the bottom. I've had the dash off, both side panels down to the fiberglass insulation, and all the little plastic woodgrain panels around the cockpit. But if I was running wires from one lighter to the other, I'd pull the carpeted kick panel off in front of the passenger seat. It is screwed down, the screws are at the corners buried in the carpet. With that off you have great access to the dash underside.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:42 PM   #3
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Buckwheat, thanks for the info.

I'll do some poking around this weekend and see if I can run something from underneath the dash. I guess if it wasn't difficult it wouldn't be any fun, right?

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Old 01-18-2013, 10:02 PM   #4
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A non conducting plumber's or electrical snake would be the easiest, once you get it across attach wire and pull it back. I had the good fortune of having a tv in center console out so enough room to put an arm in part way on each side. Lots of stuff in the way and metal would be a problem unless you disconnect all electric and batteries.
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Brad, I think your fun is going to be in reaching the cigarette lighters. It has been over 5 years since I had the cockpit side panels off so my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think you have to pull them off to get to where the lighter wiring passes into the dash area. A few screws and rivets will let you take the panels off but some of the rivets are under the glued-on plastic woodgrain panels. Since you have a 345 for parting out, it might be worth using it for a little exploratory discovery.
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Buckwheat, it was a real pain pulling the side panels in the 345. They were riveted, glued AND stapled in place. I'm hoping on the 310 I can just loosen the top and pull it back enough to snake the wires in to the dash. Weather is turning cold after Sunday so Monday I'll probably turn the furnace on in the 310 and see if I can get access.

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After all that trouble pulling the panels, did it look like it was a necessity to get to the cigarette lighter wiring? If the wires go into and behind the panels, through the insulation, and maybe even a grommet on their way to the dash area, snaking with fish wire may not be an option. For all the amenities these classics have, they are sometimes a real pain to do what should be a simple job, like running a wire from one side panel to the other.
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A non conducting plumber's or electrical snake would be the easiest, once you get it across attach wire and pull it back. I had the good fortune of having a tv in center console out so enough room to put an arm in part way on each side. Lots of stuff in the way and metal would be a problem unless you disconnect all electric and batteries.
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I don't have a non-conducting snake, just a normal electricians wire snake but when I'm working in the dash area I disconnect all of the batteries. When I was a LOT younger I never disconnected batteries when I worked on wiring...until I melted a wire that is

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After all that trouble pulling the panels, did it look like it was a necessity to get to the cigarette lighter wiring? If the wires go into and behind the panels, through the insulation, and maybe even a grommet on their way to the dash area, snaking with fish wire may not be an option.
After looking things over this weekend I "think" by pulling the front cover to the A/C evaporator I can get access to the passenger side wall panel. I'm sure it will take a little maneuvering but I think it's doable. I'm sure it will be tight as I'm trying to feed a bundle of 5 wires for the new remote mirrors.

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For all the amenities these classics have, they are sometimes a real pain to do what should be a simple job, like running a wire from one side panel to the other.
You got that right!

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Brad,

I'm also in the process of replacing my mirrors on a 1991 300 LE Classic, any pointers would help. I haven't started tearing into it yet, but the replacement mirrors should be in the mail soon.

Appreciate any assistance.

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Brad,

I'm also in the process of replacing my mirrors on a 1991 300 LE Classic, any pointers would help. I haven't started tearing into it yet, but the replacement mirrors should be in the mail soon.

Appreciate any assistance.

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Mike,

The easiest way to route the wires is to drill an appropriate sized hole through both the outer and inner skins. They don't necessarily have to be in line with each other. The hole through the inner skin needs be accessible through one of the openings in the plastic side panel (which is where you would be drilling the hole through the inner skin).

Basically the wire gets routed though the outer skin, in through the hole in the inner skin which brings into the cavity created by the plastic side panel. Once inside the side panel you route it up to the upper right corner of the dash. By pulling the A/C evaporator/blower cover you can access the dash area. From there it's pretty straight forward running a cable across the dash.

Hope this helps.

By the way, welcome to Airforums!

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Hello Texasbrewer!
I see you have a 1991 Classic 300 LE, which now makes 3 that are on the Forum. I have one in upstate NY but currently in Florida for the winter, and another fellow in SF CA also has one. Welcome. How long have you had your motorhome? Was unable to find your email address to contact you directly, but you can reach me from my profile. Happy motoring! Jim
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