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02-09-2013, 01:10 PM
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#101
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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If I grab and pull on mine, it comes out.... but thats not to say that that is right!
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02-09-2013, 01:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Key
I am over there mow so I will give it a try! Kinda thought that might be the way but didn't want to break a one if a kind no way to replace or repair airstream unique part!!!
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02-09-2013, 01:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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no luck i could probably rip it off but would damage or break what ever is holding it on.
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02-09-2013, 05:10 PM
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#104
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,102
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NO!!! Crowbars and Aluminum do NOT work well together
WHERE does it seem to be hanging? Knowing that logic of repair/replacement and Airstream assembly don't follow the same path...just sayin'...I would actually look from under the hood, past the flexible firewall...also, the dash may require removal...doghouse access might be an option...LORDY!!!...I really hate these forum conundrums, as I KNOW they're mine, also, sometime in the future...yep, the lock has worked just fine, until it became a forum topic,,,the overhead cabinets didn't bear note, till I saw a PO repair that strongly resembles my cabinet...I actually know which rivets have popped, now...I bought a micro/convection to replace the one that would have cost me more in repairs...my tires scare the cr-- out of me having crawled under and behind to see what the tire dealer didn't want me to see, WHAT airbags??? Those flat black sausages stuffed into the coil springs??? Brakes??? Isn't that why I am able to draw leather seat liners thru perfectly good Levi's while discovering that the Gear Vendor has a 'safety feature' that shifts from 1st to 2nd on a downhill 8% 90 degree curve about 1/3 of the way into it without prior notification?. WHO NEEDS SKYDIVING OR BULL RIDING???
I wouldn't trade this forum of information for anything less than a threat against my moho...uhm...OR wife...I'm armed, and not afraid to use any of them. Plywood, a saw, and a measure will get you over the hump, and vigorous application of a logic known but to the designers viewed through welder's goggles should give you an idea of the little challenges you face...but, at the end of a frustrating day, you can walk out to the unit, look, and say appropriately joined 4-letter words like the parent you have become, THEN...then, you know yer hooked, and this child is YOURS. And the rest...there is no rest, and there is no cure. My name is Mike, and I'm an alumiholic...
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
We live for the moment, 'cause when you get there, it's gone...
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02-09-2013, 05:10 PM
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#105
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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OK, unless someone enlightens us, I will try to get over and look at mine tomorrow...
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02-09-2013, 06:41 PM
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#106
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,309
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02-09-2013, 07:53 PM
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#107
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Hi Mike
My name is Dave, and I'm a motorized alumiholic (in training)....
WHERE does it seem to be hanging? Well down and to the left. No seriously, it seems to be held by something in the lower left quadrant. Opened glove box. Took off vent cover. Went outside and checked front of coach to see it from other side with no luck... Why is it always the little things that kick ur butt?
Soooo.. Anyway after a few hours putzing around, I did get a few things done. Most of them just adding items to my work list..
Figured out the door bell not operating is most likely the switch, or at a minimum needs a new switch; no change in continuity when button is pressed. Good volts and ground on the chime unit. But switch wires are OOC. The chime unit may be ooc as well. Didn't test that yet since I got diverted. I secured the 12 volt power using the storage disconnect. Well, there is still 1.0 + volts present there and every other 12 volt outlet. So that tells me there is a ground somewhere (I assume) or the isolator block between the start and coach batts is going, or that the batt boost switch/solenoid that momentarily connects the house and start batts in an emergency (low stat batt) is/are going.....
I was going to start ripping out the remaining wood floor in front of the door, but may have to disconnect the start batt to test a few theories in the trouble shooting aspect first.
On the bright side of the day, the horn never worked so remembering what I read on another forum a while ago I checked things out. Ran the engine, got the air tank up to pressure, then turned off the engine and hit the horn. I bent down close to where the solenoid valve is and could hear the valve actuating and air moving through but no sound. I kept trying it to figure out is it was just debris in the diaphragm or a frozen unit. Lo and behold, the thing started to make some noise. I momentarily panicked thinking about the rest of the thread I read where it go stuck on! Yikes.
I tried it a few more times and I got me a mighty tug boat sound!
Also spent allot of time sitting and drinking hot tea trying to imagine a floor layout with the existing interferences. We really don't need all the seating room. So two chairs would be just fine. Moving the tv, book case and what not to the other side is easily doable, but there is no outlet on that side. I could rewire and put an out let into the tv stand/fireplace heater unit. But I don't know.
I'm sure it will be easier to figure out a better lay out once the new floor is down and all the tools are out of the area.
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02-09-2013, 10:07 PM
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#108
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Hi, My name is Steve, and I am an Alumaholic...
But worse than that...
I am a dealer of sorts...
People contact me... and I tell them how wonderful these things are, and they believe me...
I sell them the concept, and they buy into it...
They even get their wives hooked...
All I can say is....
Misery LOVES company...
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02-09-2013, 10:17 PM
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#109
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,102
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Hey Dave and Felicia,
I think you're on the upside of the learning curve, but, apparently, for some of us doesn't get any less angled...Doorbell?...c'mon...a nice touch, and maybe a needed change of focus, but a reality usually not needed in the RV community.
The stuck horn was mine...I seem to remember an adage that goes "bad judgement makes good stories..." or something like that...so I have LOTS of great stories...beneath the humor are some well-deserved blood-blisters and tears of shame...mortification is my apparent goal, and, as such, I am successful.
Since the couch is street side, and the generator is nearby, a simple 120 outlet to outlet should be easy(I say 'easy' as 'easy' is actually swinging in the hammock whilst someone else does it)...if you have the radiator extension heater under your couch(rear side), then there just might be a breaker under the front dinette seat that you could tie into...also, the switch to drop the couch into a torture-chamber bed is on that(streetside) wall, and might be a consideration...many flat screens are 120ac/12 v dc adapted...
As soon as my back and patience allow, we're pulling that couch and mounting a futon. The barrel chairs/tv/tv stand became history a couple of years ago, and we now have an old singer stand with dual fold-up wings as a computer/tv stand...desk chair...
space is the only limitation to your imagination.
Sounds like doghouse is next option of approach...I would also suggest a hard right push/tug, in case it's an angle in wedge type thing. And, so I can be completely ignorant and obnoxious in one fell sentence...the thing may be screwed in/riveted beneath the horizontal carpet...the solution is there...we just were'nt meant to find it...but we will.
m
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
We live for the moment, 'cause when you get there, it's gone...
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02-09-2013, 10:48 PM
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#110
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,102
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Steve,
Yer hopeless, like most of the rest of us, but you have innate knowledge and tools that I would like you to will to me...if you want them to stay in the garage, you could will that to me, also...welcome to forum fantasy!!! I, too, will venture out to the unit to take another look...I know we had that thing off to replace the drier/blower, but...
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
We live for the moment, 'cause when you get there, it's gone...
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02-10-2013, 04:44 AM
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#111
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScrapIrony-2
Hey Dave and Felicia,
I think you're on the upside of the learning curve, but, apparently, for some of us doesn't get any less angled...Doorbell?...c'mon...a nice touch, and maybe a needed change of focus, but a reality usually not needed in the RV community.
The stuck horn was mine...I seem to remember an adage that goes "bad judgement makes good stories..." or something like that...so I have LOTS of great stories...beneath the humor are some well-deserved blood-blisters and tears of shame...mortification is my apparent goal, and, as such, I am successful.
Since the couch is street side, and the generator is nearby, a simple 120 outlet to outlet should be easy(I say 'easy' as 'easy' is actually swinging in the hammock whilst someone else does it)...if you have the radiator extension heater under your couch(rear side), then there just might be a breaker under the front dinette seat that you could tie into...also, the switch to drop the couch into a torture-chamber bed is on that(streetside) wall, and might be a consideration...many flat screens are 120ac/12 v dc adapted...
As soon as my back and patience allow, we're pulling that couch and mounting a futon. The barrel chairs/tv/tv stand became history a couple of years ago, and we now have an old singer stand with dual fold-up wings as a computer/tv stand...desk chair...
space is the only limitation to your imagination.
Sounds like doghouse is next option of approach...I would also suggest a hard right push/tug, in case it's an angle in wedge type thing. And, so I can be completely ignorant and obnoxious in one fell sentence...the thing may be screwed in/riveted beneath the horizontal carpet...the solution is there...we just were'nt meant to find it...but we will.
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Mike,
I know the door bell was a side track and willingly took it. Needed some small sense of accomplishment even if it would never be used. Of course I didn't get it However, since the switch is toast and I can't even begin to fathom how to remove, I can easily steal the 12v form it (which than pig tails to the torcher chamber bed feed) and put a 12v outlet there. The other stuff is an easy run as well. There is nothing in the front dinette bench. The auxiliary heater is 12v. I could take a feed off the generator distribution/switch box which was under the fron bench and put it to an independent breaker box for electronics on that side of the coach.
Are their pictures of you interior online? The problem with replacing the gaucho with a futon is the storage box on the street side. However that is easily remedied with a sawzall to the back legs LOL!
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02-10-2013, 04:44 AM
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#112
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
Hi, My name is Steve, and I am an Alumaholic...
But worse than that...
I am a dealer of sorts...
People contact me... and I tell them how wonderful these things are, and they believe me...
I sell them the concept, and they buy into it...
They even get their wives hooked...
All I can say is....
Misery LOVES company...
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Well my friend you got company here in Memphis!
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02-10-2013, 04:19 PM
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#113
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Dave,
I will echo what others have said about the front vent panel. Our 310 is set up to just pull out although it's not easy to remove it all the way due to the pocket on the wall side panel. It's a really tight fit but then the 310 cover has carpet wrapped around it making it a wedge fit.
Good luck!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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02-10-2013, 04:41 PM
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#114
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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At mine now... no sign of any extra screws i can see. Fits in groove on underside of dash tho so pull from bottom. Will post pics when i get home.
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02-10-2013, 04:45 PM
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#115
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Key,
Would love to see the pic. I tried pulling from the bottom as well with no luck.. HAs to be factory since the original carpet is still on it and the firewall cover on the back side is undisturbed.
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02-10-2013, 07:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 33' Land Yacht
Midland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 508
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On my 1993 there is a small L bracket screwed to the back side of the panel and then screwed to the floor. Reach through the vent feel along bottom backside edge to check.
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02-10-2013, 08:27 PM
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#117
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Hope these help...
Yup... the corner of the panel is wet and rotten...
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02-11-2013, 04:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gloran
On my 1993 there is a small L bracket screwed to the back side of the panel and then screwed to the floor. Reach through the vent feel along bottom backside edge to check.
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I thought I gave everything a good once over including the inside of the vent, but will check again after work tonight. Will let you know thanks!
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02-11-2013, 04:04 AM
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#119
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
Hope these help...
Yup... the corner of the panel is wet and rotten...
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That looks like the exact same set up right down to the rotten wood on the corner!
I am heading over after work today to take another stab at it.....
Hopefully with pictures in hand I can figure it out! Thanks for the inside look so I have a better idea of what I am dealing with!
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02-11-2013, 04:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Dave, you're up early
You might want to check your evaporator drain and make sure its not plugged.
The drain should be below the evaporator unit.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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