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Old 11-05-2013, 07:49 PM   #183
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So during the hole energenius thing, I found I had a short or ground on one of the 12vdc circuits. I was getting voltage on the 12vdc side while I have the batt isolater switch off. I know, I already ruled out a bad switch..... Actually I was getting a stray 8 vdc even with the power off and batts disconnected! So I pulled out all the 12vdc fuses, hooked up my multi-meter and plugged the back in.


The voltage came back when I put #3 back in. Now all I have to do is track down what has the capacitor that could be bleeding off voltage.....

One thing I do like about the whole restoration process is that you really learn your coach inside and out!!
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:51 AM   #184
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Anyone know what this powers?

Does anyone know what this plug in power supply provides power too? It is connected to a white and grey wire that go into the wall. it appears to be set to 9vdc

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I would like to use that outlet to plug my converter into. I could replace the converter plug to a different style to fit or run a chained outlet from that one or the one for the hot water tap..... but why bother if it doesn't do anything big. I can't imagine what they would run off of 110 to provide 9vdc to...

I plan on leaving it unplugged for the time being until I can find out what it powers or forget about it completely
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:33 PM   #185
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Trimaetric finally up and running

Remembered to take some picks of the work I did to the batts, converter and trimetric voltage/amp meter.

I talked to Randy from best converter and he suggested the boondocker power max, 60 amp 4 stage charger.
PowerMax PM4B-60 (60 Amp 4-Stage Converter/Charger)

I also picked up the Trimetric volt and amp meter with the 500 amp shunt from him as well.
Trimetric 2025RV Battery System Monitor

So here is my thinking. Good four stage charger. Probably more amps than what I need but better to much than too little. It was a coin toss anyway when I ran the numbers between the 45 or 60 amp one.

Trimetric to be able to monitor what the systems are doing and what is draining what. It was worth the $175 to be able to monitor things as I am working on them to find out where my energy eaters are and open draws/grounds I am not aware of. Which by the way I found a 0.5 amp draw with everything off. Hmmmmmmm.....

Decided to install the converter under the pots and pan drawer beneath the cook top.

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And the Trimetric by the light panel inside the door. This was so I could easily see it when sitting in the main salon I used five wire thermostat wire from lowes for a fraction of the cost they wanted for the harness.

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I put in two sears die-hard deep cycle marine lead acid batts. They will be plenty fine to run, test things for the next few years while I fix it up and do camp ground camping. Oh and run the heater while I am in it this winter!! Figure I can get 2 afternoons of work out of them before they need to be recharged. If I ever decide to do some serious boon docking I will look at the AGMS. Not to mention, if I do some thing stupid while working on the 12vdc I am don't fry the good stuff! (I also disconnect one of them while I am doing such work to cut possible losses by 50% ). I took to first + connection off the #1 batt and the first - connection off the #2 batt. I ran both house and start negs off the post on the shunt, but migh have to run a completely new Neg for the start batt. I am going to send Randy an email to see if the shunt can handle that kind of amps. It is a 500 amp shunt.....

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While the start batt was out, I tested the emergency relay to tie the start and house batts together for extra amps to start the engine. By the way, this also allows me to start the Generator with out having the start batt installed (or dead start batt. Since they are 800 CCA each I could start the engine as well. Will test that out as well next time I take it for a spin around base.
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:57 PM   #186
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re-post from Classic General Threards

This was also posted in the classic motor home general area. Wanted to keep this thread as a record of everything.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f160...ml#post1393536


Decided to remove the microwave above the stove this week-end. It hangs down so far that it impedes using the stove easily. Simple, quick project since I have done it many times in homes. WRONG!

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One thing can be said for classics, who ever put them together, did it to last! The over the stove microwave appears to be a factory installed. Most have 2 to 4 screws coming down from the top. Not this one. It is installed in a metal cabinet.

I have looked high and low for retaining screws with no luck. I can see where the micro wave is screwed into the metal suspension cabinet, but not how to lower that. You can see the screws, but can not get at them since the cabinet is above and the partition on the sink side.

I removed the panel between the over the sink cabinet and the over the stove one (the one with the front/rear a/c selector switch.

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The only thing I can think of is to remove the cabinets..

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Since I am traveling over the holidays I at least have time think about this...
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Old 12-18-2013, 07:42 PM   #187
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Dave,

I honestly can't remember how I removed the microwave from the 345 when I dismantled it. I'll take a look at some of my pictures over the weekend and see if they will jog my memory.

I'm not so sure they built them to last so much as they built them starting at the back end working forward and the last one out the door was the loser

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Old 12-18-2013, 08:09 PM   #188
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Dave,

I honestly can't remember how I removed the microwave from the 345 when I dismantled it. I'll take a look at some of my pictures over the weekend and see if they will jog my memory.

I'm not so sure they built them to last so much as they built them starting at the back end working forward and the last one out the door was the loser

Brad
Thanks!

Good point about starting at the back and building forward! Now I am wondering if I want to do anything else now that most of the kitchen will be coming out....... Does it ever end?
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:09 AM   #189
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This and that

Well, not much progress due to holiday travel and the weather.

Trouble shooting the front furnace. It was running (firing) intermittently. Atwood hydro flame, appears to be an 8935. Most likely a very early model since one side of the sticker says wiring diagram for model 85-II and the other has model 8935. The burner assembly matches the open bottom of the 8900 series in the service manual...

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Anyway, during the dis-assembly and cleaning I found a big ole mud dauber nest in the ignition chamber.

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Didn't have a chance to test it after re-assembly due to freezing rain.... Just wanted to get home dried and warmed up!
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:53 PM   #190
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I got the Trimetric too... it was the best.
Keep up the good work btw!
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:17 PM   #191
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Not much work lately. Fell and screwed up my back last week. Lost a perfectly good week-end!

Did manage to finally figure out the mysterious plug I was talking about in post #184. It powers the monitor panel above the stove. Go figure....
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Bookmarked the page and will watch for updates! Glen said,"tell them to be sure
and send pics" SO we will watch for up-dates here!
Work hard in the winter because before you know it the HOT comes back.
Looking forward to your AS sitting in our driveway!
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:02 PM   #193
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Monty!

I searched High and Low for your forum name and couldn't find you! Yeah, Memphis is fickle it is too cold in the winter to work and to hot in the summer!

So have you started a thread so we can all live vicariously through your travels?? Glad some one is able to!
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:52 PM   #194
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replaced flooring in the cockpit

Finally finished the flooring (sub flooring) in the cockpit area. With work, wx (weather) and old age, it has taken a bit.

You can see where the leaking side window seals took there toll:

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Cut out all the bad stuff. Well, really just vacuumed out most of it

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Decided to not take off the wall panels... I believe I can get just as good a result with out the extra destruction and time. It needs to be drivable next month and ready (aluminum tent) for a rally in June....

Made a pattern out of cardboard and notched it so the piece would slip under the aluminum side wall and not damage the drain tubes, and shifter cable. Once the pattern was in place in the airstream stuck a screw driver through all the bolt and screw holes to locate them so I could pre-drill them when I made the new floor. Transferred it to a piece of 3/4 plywood. and cut it out. Then coated the bottom and sides with the WEST system penetrating epoxy. I think this is the best solution between putting in regular plywood and the very expensive plastic board. Heck Airstream put in particle board back in 91' I am sure I will get at least another 25 years out of it since I fixed the leaking side windows and epoxied the wood.

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Cleaned up and neutralized any rust with rust converter and sprayed black. The only thing wrong with the insulation was the aluminum had been worn off the top. So replaced it with heavy duty aluminum foil and taped it down with aluminum duct tape (the metal stuff not the cloth stuff). This will give the heat/fire isolation barrier back it's original, if not better, functionality.

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Put the piece in place, put the seat bolt and safety belt restraining bolts in their holes to make sure everything was lined up. Then screwed it in place with new screws from Vintage trailer supply.

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I also ordered some MLV (mass loaded vinyl; thanks Key!) to knock down some of the sound from the Diesel engine. Will cut the piece out before I re-install the drivers seat.

Plans are to have carpet and foam put down. This should make things quiet enough to hold a conversation up forward. O.K., I was happy with wearing ear plugs since I couldn't hear the DW over the engine anyway. But for some reason she wants to be able to talk....... I am now re-thinking the decision t put in the MLV.

All mistakes in spelling, grammar and content is purely the blame of old age, fat fingers and a really good Tempranillo, wine from the Riojo region of Spain....
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You bet, that is why the big is push on! We have our site reserved and can't wait!
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