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Old 01-23-2012, 07:13 AM   #61
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Derek,
Had the same problem 2 years ago with the starter and the banks. My machanic was able to squeeze the thing out without removing the headers. His last resort would have been to pull the selinoid to get more room, then install without a selinoid and reinstall the seloniod. Replaced the altenator at the same time. Think I will try to get to the rally for the weekend in Sarasota. If I do,my 345 is the one with a green stripe - hope to meet you.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:31 AM   #62
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Richard, I plan on getting down on Saturday for the Rally, I'll be sure to look for you! Will get back under Airstream again this afternoon and check for solenoid Dean, let's hope that replacing solenoid will solve problem. Someone told mo over weekend, that replacing the coil could help??? Guess I need to step up my learning curve. Had VW diesels for the past 15 years, and have completely forgotten what it's like to work on gasoline fueled engine.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:44 AM   #63
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What are your symptoms of the bad starter?

And you didn't mention the shipping information for that electric sofa that you shipped out to me immediately yesterday!
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:53 AM   #64
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I replaced a good starter in my truck a few years back only to find that the problem was a battery cable...
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:58 AM   #65
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OMG -- have Ding and Dong separated???
I can only imagine how they worked together. Electric solenoid and spring return?
Most of these pre electronic doorbells are of simple construction and can easily be repaired. This is a single tone example, and the double tone would have two solenoids on this example. In most cases one door activates one tone and the other back door activates the second tone.
I would think the Airstream would only have one tone??????

To clean sticking plunger use non flamable cleaning fluid on plunger and then activate repeatedly until free. DO NOT OIL
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My door bell in behind the couch. It goes "ding" not "ding dong". Can't see anyway to fix it...any ideas out there?
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:58 AM   #66
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Derek,

On the coil question - one of the symptoms that we had with a bad coil was hard starting. The starter worked fine, but it had to put in a lot of OT to get the motor going because the coil was not producing enough spark. A mobile mechanic diagnosed and replaced it, and then I upgraded to a red MSD coil. Now it starts as soon as I touch the key.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:37 AM   #67
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This info might be of help.

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The doorbell operates off four "C" 1.5 volt batteries or an 8/10 transformer. The dimensions are 3 7/8" x 6 1/2" x 1 5/8". The part numbers are: 511958 (Switch) and 511966 (Doorbell, battery powered).




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Old 01-24-2012, 05:43 PM   #68
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Derek, just glad we spotted that inverter. Like I said, I have the exact same one sitting in the garage right next to that old piece of crap Univolt maybe I was a PI in England in a previous life (photo interpreter during the war...just watched a documentary).

Are you sure it is the starter...maybe the starter solenoid if you have one. Mine does, they were installed as aftermarket and then as OEM to solve the hot starter problem (starter engaging on its own). my dad had replaced the starter and the solenoid a couple of times

And, by the way...I WANT YOUR ELECTRIC SOFA!!!!!!!!!!!
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Haven't quite decided to pitch the electric sofa. Really haven't fooled with it yet to be honest. But, and that's a BIG 'if', you'll be the first I contact. Doesn't sleep worth a flip, I've tried, lol. Had several folks tell me that it's basically the same sofa that's in conversion vans, albeit a bit longer (wider?) I'll measure and post it next.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:45 PM   #69
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Derek,

On the coil question - one of the symptoms that we had with a bad coil was hard starting. The starter worked fine, but it had to put in a lot of OT to get the motor going because the coil was not producing enough spark. A mobile mechanic diagnosed and replaced it, and then I upgraded to a red MSD coil. Now it starts as soon as I touch the key.
I'll see where the heck the coil is on this beast. Gotta get up under it on my day off this week to see what I can accomplish on the starter. I'm ready to get this thing on the road. Been almost 3 weeks, and I'm getting a bit antsy to at least scare the neighborhood kids with it, lol.
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Old 01-28-2012, 08:14 AM   #70
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No time for much on my day off this past Thursday. Folks are in the state (one of their homes is 1hr away) so spent time with them and housework. Was able to get under moho and 'rap' on starter, no luck though.
Did get a 15W solar panel on Thursday that I ordered from Home Depot online. $119, free shopping and it came with controller! Fits nicely on dash. Has 4 ways to connect, but for now using the cigarette lighter to charge with. Maybe some day I'll have enough $ to mount LOTS of panels on roof and be able to use my charger/converter/inverter that dadstoy and Keyair pointed out to me! Score on that piece of info! Instead of $150 charger/converter, I have Xantrax inverter, about $1500 worth! Will pull it and have computer geek buddy of mine check the circuit boards inside to make sure all is copacetic.
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:57 PM   #71
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Gotta get up under it on my day off this week to see what I can accomplish on the starter.
Thanks, Derek
crazeevw- I've been tossing around the idea of installing headers on my 345 for a while but the r+r starter is one issue that has me concerned.

I think you have the Banks headers and I'm curious what process you had to go through to r+r your starter.

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Old 02-14-2012, 06:28 PM   #72
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Hi Bill, to be honest, I'm still waiting on the $ to be able to r&r the starter. BIG screwup with payday at work last payday. Oh well, she's sitting pretty out in my driveway at the moment, lol.
Checked with various mechanics, gonna try the 'bang the starter' next. If this does require a r&r, I've been told to remove the solenoid on top of the starter first (thanks dadstoy (Dean)) then go for the starter after solenoid removal. Hoping to get at least something done this weekend. I'll post my results. But to be honest, it's been too cold outside here in the Sunshine State lately on my days off to get much done at all.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:52 PM   #73
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Hi Derek. What I was actually referring to is a solenoid (relay) mounted on top of the engine above the right side valve cover. It was an after market install for a while to solve starter problems. My '82 has one and I think it was added after the factory. See attached pic.

If you have the GM Motorhome Manual (you can download it for free), read through section Appendix 7 for many starter problems. If your problem is the solenoid on the starter, I'm sure you will have to remove the starter anyway.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:31 PM   #74
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http://youtu.be/t1HCKxhB304

Please watch this video, tell me if anyone has had problems with their ignition key as I am.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:42 PM   #75
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Well...

Clearly the whole thing is spinning, but I have questions..

Did you already replace the switch cos it looks new?
If you hold the back, does it work ok?
Post a pic of the front?
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:40 AM   #76
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Steve, I haven't replaced the switch, but that's not to say some PO hasn't. If I hold the back of the switch, while twisting the key, it works, but it's a PAIN to do so. Here's a pic of the front. I'm guessing mine is similar to others? Thanks for any advice. Derek
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:45 AM   #77
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The outer ring on the front of the ignition switch needs to be tightened clockwise. I have done this with a screw driver since I didn't have the three point tool that goes into the recesses in this ring. What I did was tightened it the best I could by inserting the screwdriver into one of the recesses and turning the ring as far as I could then finish tightening by turning the back of the ignition switch. I would make sure that the key slot was in the proper position when I had completed this process.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:57 AM   #78
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Great info Gunner!
So, the bezel screws down and the lock is just held in place by the friction?
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:17 PM   #79
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Gunner, about to head out and try your fix. Jeez, I LOVE having the beast in my driveway!
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:26 PM   #80
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Gunner, a HUGE THANK YOU! Betcha I turned that ring around at least 4 times before it started getting any friction. Something so simple, who would've thought that there is anything simple in an AS motorhome!
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