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Old 10-22-2015, 10:01 PM   #15
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Sealing a double pane window like that would be the final step.
First you have clean the surfaces of the panes on the inside. Condensation left tracks, marks and cloudiness that only can be cleaned if you disassemble the unit.
It probably comes down to our different climatic experiences! You are in a hot climate where condensation can turn nasty quickly, and I am in a cold climate where condensation is usually no more than a little moisture.

The picture of KJ's window makes it look like a mild case with just a little and maybe quite recent condensation, and not the sort of major long term disfigurement that you are talking about Peter. I can see what you mean if there are tracks, maybe even algae and bacterial slime, in the air gap: then for sure there would be no alternative to dismantling. Maybe KJ could comment on how bad the condensation is.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:36 AM   #16
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It probably comes down to our different climatic experiences! You are in a hot climate where condensation can turn nasty quickly, and I am in a cold climate where condensation is usually no more than a little moisture.

The picture of KJ's window makes it look like a mild case with just a little and maybe quite recent condensation, and not the sort of major long term disfigurement that you are talking about Peter. I can see what you mean if there are tracks, maybe even algae and bacterial slime, in the air gap: then for sure there would be no alternative to dismantling. Maybe KJ could comment on how bad the condensation is.
Silica crystals! I was wondering what those were...garnets or rubies maybe? Ha Ha

Actually 3 windows have failed: bathroom, entry door and the big one in the back. I can live with the two small ones as I'm not in the habit of looking out of those, but the effect of the panoramic stateroom is rather diminished with that big foggy wet spot in the middle!

This coach came from "steamy hot" Tennessee and is now in "all 4 seasons" southern Oregon. I dread the thought of algae growing in there! The fog is pretty much confined to the very center of the window, with condensation drips ever present tracking though the fine film of dust or what ever is between those panes of glass. The whole thing just looks dirty.

I was thinking I could go down to the local auto glass shop and have a new tempered glass window made and fitted.

In the event we do decide to just put out the cash and purchase another...how would I go about doing that?

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Old 10-23-2015, 06:47 AM   #17
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Silica crystals! I was wondering what those were...garnets or rubies maybe? Ha Ha

Actually 3 windows have failed: bathroom, entry door and the big one in the back. I can live with the two small ones as I'm not in the habit of looking out of those, but the effect of the panoramic stateroom is rather diminished with that big foggy wet spot in the middle!

This coach came from "steamy hot" Tennessee and is now in "all 4 seasons" southern Oregon. I dread the thought of algae growing in there! The fog is pretty much confined to the very center of the window, with condensation drips ever present tracking though the fine film of dust or what ever is between those panes of glass. The whole thing just looks dirty.

I was thinking I could go down to the local auto glass shop and have a new tempered glass window made and fitted.

In the event we do decide to just put out the cash and purchase another...how would I go about doing that?

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Actually they are Garnets and Rubies, I was just trying to keep Punch away from us with his drill and dremel tool.
I am not sure if that frame would support a normal tempered glass, Lexan appears to be the choice of replacement.
There are in length articles about the issue, since Airstream was so foolish to put film inside of these double pane windows in the 70's
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f454...ilm-37422.html
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:54 AM   #18
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Silica crystals! I was wondering what those were...garnets or rubies maybe? Ha Ha

Actually 3 windows have failed: bathroom, entry door and the big one in the back. I can live with the two small ones as I'm not in the habit of looking out of those, but the effect of the panoramic stateroom is rather diminished with that big foggy wet spot in the middle!

This coach came from "steamy hot" Tennessee and is now in "all 4 seasons" southern Oregon. I dread the thought of algae growing in there! The fog is pretty much confined to the very center of the window, with condensation drips ever present tracking though the fine film of dust or what ever is between those panes of glass. The whole thing just looks dirty.

I was thinking I could go down to the local auto glass shop and have a new tempered glass window made and fitted.

In the event we do decide to just put out the cash and purchase another...how would I go about doing that?

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Then it sounds as if Peter is right (he's annoying that way) and you'll have to separate the panes. I would take it to a professional, who might have a simple solution. Of course, if a guy could figure out how they were assembled in the first place, then he might be able to reverse the process.......... I love my Dremel.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:36 AM   #19
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Hi to all! The great white north is having a beautiful fall ! Colors unbelievable, No snow at all not even freezing! I bought 1985 310 for parts I have the grill and both light bezels in good shape also windows rear and the door window I think is sold/ How are you Keyair? Jonathan
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:54 PM   #20
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Hi to all! The great white north is having a beautiful fall ! Colors unbelievable, No snow at all not even freezing! I bought 1985 310 for parts I have the grill and both light bezels in good shape also windows rear and the door window I think is sold/ How are you Keyair? Jonathan
We are definitely interested in the grill and light bezels. Have you got someone interested in the bathroom window? I washed windows inside and out today, and the bathroom window is by far the worst one. Could you PM me with prices and such? Then...how do we get them from Alberta, Canada to Southern Oregon?

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Welcome to the site, which could certainly use a female around to keep us males in line.

If you're pulling your hair out already, you better buy a toque, as hair is in short supply with us Classic moho owners.

The search engine for the forums is not the best so don't feel bad for posting what you know many, many others have already posted. A regular, like Peter for example, will come along and direct you to a thread on the subject. However you might want to post a thread concerning one issue at a time or your thread could get very out of control in a heart beat as some of the thread fixes can be very time consuming (like windows) and long.

Glad to see the coach has new owners that will keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. Just remember she is an old girl (as far as RV age goes) and you might want to accept an occasional crack or wrinkle, here and there, as we in the forums call it "patina".

It could drive you crazy trying to fix everything. For example I revinyled my interior, and low and behold a new crack appeared in my shiny new vinyl panel.Hold your breathe and count to twenty.

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Old 10-23-2015, 06:07 PM   #22
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Welcome to the site, which could certainly use a female around to keep us males in line.

If you're pulling your hair out already, you better buy a toque, as hair is in short supply with us Classic moho owners.

The search engine for the forums is not the best so don't feel bad for posting what you know many, many others have already posted. A regular, like Peter for example, will come along and direct you to a thread on the subject. However you might want to post a thread concerning one issue at a time or your thread could get very out of control in a heart beat as some of the thread fixes can be very time consuming (like windows) and long.

Glad to see the coach has new owners that will keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed. Just remember she is an old girl (as far as RV age goes) and you might want to accept an occasional crack or wrinkle, here and there, as we in the forums call it "patina".
Tony,

Thank you for the welcome! I am grateful for Peter sending me links to "fixits" as I have been having a terrible time trying to look up topics with the search function. You are right that posts become cumbersome when there is way too much info to wade through to find the one little nugget you're looking for! I will post separately in the future

Miss Penny is a wonder and her "patina" is lovely. Runs like a champ (albeit a bit slow for my husband's taste) I am the fixit lady for sure, a Jill of all trades, master of none. Student of Life; always eager to learn new things and figure out how stuff works and why. I look forward to "hanging out" with the Classic boys and pickin' yer' brains...not what little hair y'all have left.

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Old 10-23-2015, 06:13 PM   #23
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I was reading over on the newer motorhome thread some time ago about this very subject. Seems they have a lot of double pain windows. So come across this issue more than us with the older coaches.
You might try a search over there. As they named a number of shops that do this work.

Sorry I can't be more specific, maybe a search there will turn up some info for you.

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.. I washed windows inside and out today, and the bathroom window is by far the worst one.....
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KJ, since privacy is a concern, I decided to find some "stained glass" window film to cover the bathroom and the door window instead of worrying about any issues with those 2.
something like this:
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KJ,

Try this, use the quote button and reply to this message. At the very top you'll see the word quote with a left bracket to the left of it then my user name bkahler and some numbers. The username and numbers are not needed to do quoting. The forum adds those at the start of a quote only. At the end of the quoted text you'll see a left bracket then /quote and then a right bracket.

So, to start a quoted section use a left bracket, quote, right bracket to end the quote use the left bracket /quote right bracket.

Hope that makes sense!

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The cracked plastic you show in the pics is likely ABS plastic. I have made a few repairs to ABS parts on my moho recently. Get some MEK (sold at most hardware stores next to the paint thinner and lacquer thinner). Find an inconspicuous spot and rub it with a rag saturated with the MEK. If it melts the plastic and forms a slurry on the surface it is ABS. Glue, epoxies and Bondo will not bond long term.
It is best to repair it with ABS. I have a few post in my recent thread, also search on Keyair, he has some great info in his posts.
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