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Old 06-13-2017, 12:59 PM   #1
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Question What should the mechanic check out?

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Thanks for everyone's help with the Brake booster, the mechanic is installing it this week. While she is at the shop I would like to have a complete inspection. We have had the master cylinder and booster done, obviously, and had new tires put on, but was wondering if there is anything else major that we should have checked out that may not be on our mechanic's radar. We had it checked out before we bought it and the mechanic (a different one) said it looks good and will stop running when it stops running. Unfortunately, we are novices at the mechanical aspects and would like to try to stay a step ahead. Any advice on common problems would be greatly appreciated. Also she has been in Florida for a few decades so rust is an issue. Thank you!
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Old 06-13-2017, 02:33 PM   #2
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Considering the unknowns I would most definitely replace all of the brake hoses. They aren't expensive and they are relatively easy to replace.

I would also replace all rubber fuel lines with the latest and greatest stuff that can handle ethanol and all the other additives found in gas these days.

If the steering seems sloppy then you'll want to have the idler arm pivots, ball joints and tie rod ends looked at for wear. I've found that the idler arm pivots more than anything contribute to sloppy steering.

There's plenty more to look at but I'm drawing blanks at the moment!

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Old 06-13-2017, 04:08 PM   #3
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As Brad has said, get a good alignment shop to check out the set up and sort out steering etc. Plus, fuel lines etc. This is a good read.

http://www.offroadtoybox.com/RV/P-Ch...entProcess.pdf

I think there is a general checklist somewhere on the site.

I would consider the following, assuming they are applicable to the Argosy:

Cheap fixes
Fan clutch
Belts and hoses
Leads, sensors, distributor, coil etc - if you think they haven't been done recently
Starter
Battery solenoid
Fuel filter

You can always keep the old ones as emergency spares

More expensive
Shocks and steering stabilizer (Bilstein)
Springs
Can't recall if you are getting master cylinder done with brake booster, but would make sense, along with associated hoses

I wouldn't worry too much about the rust right now. It is probably superficial (famous last words). I reckon best to fix things which will clobber you on the road and build up some emergency spares..... This is all off top of my head. I am sure Brad or Martin can correct any of my logic. I think much of this depends on your financial position, what you can be bothered to sort out and general approach to maintenance; some fix on the road when something breaks and put up with a period off the road, some fix everything and de-risk breakdowns, some fix essentials and try and build up a replacement cycle over time in line within financial resources.

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For an excellent thread to read on must do list, read this thread; short but sweet, especially the list on page 2.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311...ce-161521.html

Yes it's a 345 so somethings won't or don't apply, but it pretty well covers it all.

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Old 06-14-2017, 07:02 AM   #5
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Thank you! I compiled a list...

To do:
Replace all of the brake hoses
Front end aligned
Replaced all rubber fuel lines with fuel injection hose
Replace engine belts
New fuel filters installed
Airbags replaced
Oil & filter changed and all chassis points lubricated
Alternator serviced and bearings replaced
Transmission serviced, filter cleaned and new synthetic fluid flushed in with additive
Rear differential drained, cleaned and serviced
Generator service, oil and filter change and new fuel filter
Front wheel bearings and tag axle bearings cleaned, repacked & seals replaced
Replace idler arm pivots, ball joints and tie rod ends
Replace Battery solenoid
Replace fan clutch,
Replace starter

To check:

Water pump,
engine fuel pump
steering dampener
starter motor
radiator
air conditioner compressor
Speedometer gear
Steering box
Shocks
steering stabilizer (Bilstein)
Leads, sensors, distributor, coil

How's it look?
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Thank you! I compiled a list...

To do:
Replace all of the brake hoses
Front end aligned
Replaced all rubber fuel lines with fuel injection hose
Replace engine belts
New fuel filters installed
Airbags replaced
Oil & filter changed and all chassis points lubricated
Alternator serviced and bearings replaced
Transmission serviced, filter cleaned and new synthetic fluid flushed in with additive
Rear differential drained, cleaned and serviced
Generator service, oil and filter change and new fuel filter
Front wheel bearings and tag axle bearings cleaned, repacked & seals replaced
Replace idler arm pivots, ball joints and tie rod ends
Replace Battery solenoid
Replace fan clutch,
Replace starter

To check:

Water pump,
engine fuel pump
steering dampener
starter motor
radiator
air conditioner compressor
Speedometer gear
Steering box
Shocks
steering stabilizer (Bilstein)
Leads, sensors, distributor, coil

How's it look?
Expensive

The good new is most of what you've listed is a do once and hopefully not worry about it again for along long time.
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The brake lines are available on rockauto very very reasonably. I ordered a new master, all new brake hoses, rear rotors(caliper locked up on the way home and got it nice and toasty), all new calipers, all new pads for about 400 shipped using a coupon. I have the 4 wheel disc brakes with hydroboost though so you will probably have fewer lines and maybe more reasonable rear brake parts.
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:21 PM   #8
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estimates

Thought I'd update with what the estimates for the mechanics of the argosy MOHO are for opinions and future owners. Thanks
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Reading through the receipts it doesn't seem that the number of hours per task was outrageous. Bottom line, although it was expensive I don't think you got ripped off on the number of hours billed for.

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Looking at the hours billed I would say it would take me twice as long. I think I have done every task outlined except the fan clutch.
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The one little, but potentially debilitating thing I didn't see replaced (and I'm a little surprised considering how many coolant hoses were replaced) is the thermostat.

I'm not surprised at the amount you paid, but very glad that you realized, given your lack of knowledge on all things Argosy, that replacing all this just made your life a lot easier. Now you can take your time to acquaint yourself with all the systems and pick one to double check and make good at your leisure.

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Hi. I noticed the mechanic changed one valve cover gasket. I bought a 76 Argosy 28 recently and had to change the passenger side immediately to drive it home. It wasn't too long before the driver side started leaking all over the exhaust manifiold as well. Had to change that one too...which led to complete doghouse removal, oh joy that was, to make it easier to lift the air conditioning compressor enough for the valve cover to clear, and to access all the coolant hoses for easier replacement.

Just saying, if the mechanic only changed one side, expect the other side to leak too. Old dried out original cork gaskets hard as a rock and brittle, and not sealing. I replaced them with Felpro rubber ones.
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Oh, sorry, I see in the labour charge he did both sides for 1.8 hours I took me all day to get the doghouse off and do one side.
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doghouse removal : much more room.
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