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Old 05-07-2015, 08:01 PM   #15
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I'm pretty familiar with the 'deux chevaux'. One of my friends have one in the UK, and just the two of us can pick it up and move it. I have driven his but felt seasick from the lateral movement in the suspension - he actually got in a minor accident one day and there was no damage to either vehicle as the suspension on the 2CV simply rocked backwards and when the vehicles parted rocked forward again.
The suspension is unique but you have to admit it smooths out the bumps on rough roads. If you really check them out there are some very interesting design features. If for no other reason I don't think is much that would draw more attention driving down the highway then an Airstream towing a 2 CV.
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Old 05-07-2015, 08:24 PM   #16
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Especially if it was one of the Hoffman convertible specials!

HOFFMANN CONVERTIBLE

Although I am not sure any of these ever made it to the US

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Old 05-07-2015, 09:17 PM   #17
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Every time somebody brings up a Citroen 2CV, my face developes an uncontrolable twitch; as my Father bought one when we moved back to the UK in 1973, when Dad got homesick.

The 2CV is like the F35 JSFighter of the car world, can't turn, can't run, can't start, can't stop. I remember the bloody thing stalling in Trafalgar Square or Piccadilly Circus; it was a big round-a-bout with bloody big double decker buses flashing past us in this tin can of a car. The bus wouldn't have felt it if they had hit us. I also remember having to take three runs at a hill in Wales, with my Dad making all of us get out and walking to the top of the hill on the fourth attempt.

Mythbusters did turn one into a motorcycle....sort of.

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http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Citroen/...PO&orup=1_15_2

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Old 05-07-2015, 09:58 PM   #18
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FYI for all you 2CV connoisseurs out there, I think these 2CV's are not French if my memory is correct.

How about a Honda V-Tec twin engine Superfastmini...AWD and can do burnouts in both directions simultaneously or this cheaper model.

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Old 05-07-2015, 11:38 PM   #19
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You don't see many 2 CV's like this.


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The conversion is a Blackjack by Avion. I saw one at a Citroen meet in Seattle.
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Dan and I are threadjacking this thread with impracticality...... ....but what fun. It even gains you instant membership into the RAF with its RAF roundels and bulletholes (decal bulletholes that is), but still!

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Dan and I are threadjacking this thread with impracticality...... ....but what fun.
Who worries about practicality!

A VW Thing is hardly the most practical vehicle to have in New England!
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Ok, these are just too cool!
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As long as we are talking practicality I have to talk about my 2 CV. It has no belts, it's air cooled and the generator is mounted on the end of the crankshaft. There is no distributor, the points ride directly on the camshaft. There is a centrifugal clutch inside the regular clutch in the event you forget to push in the clutch petal when you stop it won't kill the engine. Just push on the gas and away you go. The wipers are driven from the speedometer cable so the faster you go the faster the wipers go. The top can be rolled back half way or all the way depending how much ventilation you want. There is also a flap below the windshield that can be opened for additional ventilation. The door windows fold open so no wind up mechanism to break. The seats can be removed so you can sit outside and enjoy your wine and cheese for lunch. Each seat pad is attached to the tubular seat frame by 40 rubber donuts for a comfortable ride. The head lights are adjustable from the drivers seat so you don't blind oncoming traffic if you have a heavy load in the back. There is a dip stick in the gas tank that provides accurate fuel level. If you should have to work on the engine the entire inner and outer front fender can be removed by loosening 4 nuts and lifting the fender off of the car.
It is a very simple and practical car and it gets about 60 mpg.

PS. It can be towed 4 wheels down.
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I apologize Dan if I inferred that one of the most influential cars of the 20th century was complete crap, which it isn't; at least if you're a French egg farmer who wishes to have his or her product traverse a ploughed field on the way to market and arrive intact. To complete that feat, the 2CV is in a class of its own.

Don't even get me started on the DS which I was very fortunate to have been able to experience, as one of our friends had a pristine example on Saltspring Island.

The French in many respects were very much ahead of the motoring pack but at the tender age of eight seeing my Mom contemplate bailing out of the car, mid round-a-bout, leaving us behind did scar me forever on French cars.

It probably didn't help that my Dad has the mechanical aptitude of Kim Kardashian and threw up his hands in defeat mid round-a-bout.

I wonder if I could put a WRX powertrain into a 2CV?

Yes I know......a Morgan wouldn't exactly be Honda like in the reliability ratings.

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Old 05-09-2015, 03:02 AM   #25
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French cars are just so unique. The Citroen goes from the 2 CV to the hydraulic/air suspension of the DS, SM, CX and others. The suspension was so smooth that Rolls Royce and Bentley used it. As bazar as French cars are they can also be great cars. I drove Peugeot diesels for many years. They were ugly and not real fast but the handling and comfort were great and they ran forever. That being said for fun give me an English sports car anytime. I love my MG and it's hard to beat the looks of my Series I Jaguar X6.

Now back on topic I have a Citroen CX diesel that I think would make a great toad but I can't figure out how to keep the suspension pumped up so I can tow it 4 wheels down. Until I get that figured out I guess I'll just tow one of my smarts.

I never claimed my taste of cars was anywhere near normal.
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Do you tow the Smart on a trailer Dan? I have been warned off towing either by dolly (because of the rear engine), or 4 down due to the electronic transmission not having a true neutral, so had discounted it.

A Smart convertible was our first choice, partially because I can buy a second set of body panels and have them painted to match to Argosy. This also would be of benefit when we take our Argosy back to UK in a few years as I can 'export' the color coordinated Smart panels and fit to a UK registered car rather than try and export the whole car (which we would do if we got the Thing).
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I do tow the smart 4 wheels down. Now I do have pre U.S. smarts with the European shifter which are easier to make sure you are in neutral. The U.S. smarts have a PRND shifter and in order to get a neutral you have to leave the key in it switched to an accessory position and pull a fuse or some controverted procedure. If you don't get everything just right you are still in gear or running the battery down or adding miles on the odometer or something. I don't have a U.S. smart so I don't pay that much attention to all the details. I have a friend who tows his smart on a dolly so I know it can be done without too much trouble.

Most people drive their car up and attach the tow bar and then play witch the shifter, key and fuses and hope they get it right. I personally pull the car up a foot or two short of the hitch. Now get the shifter, key and fuses set and then roll the car up by hand to connect the tow bar. If everything is correct the car rolls very easy. If you got something wrong and the car is still in gear you know right away because you can't move the car. Because of my feeble mind it's an easy way to make sure I didn't screw up.

By the way because I went through all the hassle and expense of acquiring two smarts before they were imported and sold in the U.S. you can kind of guess how I feel about them. I guess my forum name might also be a hint.
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By the way because I went through all the hassle and expense of acquiring two smarts before they were imported and sold in the U.S. you can kind of guess how I feel about them. I guess my forum name might also be a hint.
Hmmm......so you may have some tips on how to get a Smart Roadster imported (even temporarily) then? I thought there was a rule about the car needing to be 25 years old before that was possible with bring in without type approval?

The Roadster is pretty 'common' in the UK (for example a quick search on the UK version of Autotrader shows 87 for sale at the moment) and you can pick up a good 2003 model for around $2K, through to maybe $10K for a Brabus Finale special. I still have a house over there so could easily pick one up, register it and ship it over, if there was a way to bring it in.
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