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03-12-2017, 12:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 28' Airstream 280
Port Angeles
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,942
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It also works great on the arms on your Zip Dee awning. I use it on my front slider windows and it works great.
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03-12-2017, 05:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Well, I've got some silicone spray that I bought from a auto parts store years ago, I'll go ahead and give that a try.
Thanks!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-12-2017, 01:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
1977 20' Argosy 20
northern valley
, new jersey
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Gregg, what type, brand, etc silicone spray do you use?k
I need to tackle Peanut's and my windows in the near future and the silicone spray sounds like a must have.
Thanks!
Brad
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Brad, we use CRC #03040 food grade silicone spray for everything... Also comes in a pump spray, #03039
Best,
Joseph
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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci.
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03-12-2017, 05:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2
Brad, we use CRC #03040 food grade silicone spray for everything... Also comes in a pump spray, #03039
Best,
Joseph
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Joseph, does that mean I can lick the glass when I'm done?
Thanks for the info.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-13-2017, 11:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
1977 20' Argosy 20
northern valley
, new jersey
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Joseph, does that mean I can lick the glass when I'm done?
Thanks for the info.
Brad
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don't think I've ever tried it, so, you go first!
ymmv!
best,
Joseph
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03-18-2017, 03:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Well today was somewhat sunny and somewhat warm, at least in the early part of the day so I worked on Peanut
Before I could work on the A/C hose installation I had to get the passenger side cockpit wall panel installed to get it out of the way. When I was replacing the wood floor I couldn't fully remove the panel due to one rivet in the upper front corner. The panel was installed before the dash so there's no way to get to the rivet to drill it out. So I had to hang the panel from the sun visor mount!
I had to wrestle and fight both sides to get the panels to fit properly. Oddly enough the passenger side had to be shortened by 1/4" to get the panel to fit in the same rivet holes
I have no idea why it worked out that way but after trimming the bottom I was able to reuse all of the existing rivet holes. The drivers side had to be fit back around the battery box. I think I spent 15-20 minutes trying to get it to fit but it finally popped back into place.
Once the wall panels were back in place I started fabricating the A/C hoses. The dryer is now installed along with the hose from the dryer to the condenser. As far as the connections to the evaporator, there is very little room between the evaporator and the firewall. I think I invented a few new cuss words while working on the evaporator!!
I ran into a stumbling block in that the fittings I had originally planned to use to connect to the compressor won't fit with the dog house cover so I'm going to have to order a couple more fittings to make that work. Also I'll need to order one more fitting to make the connection from the dryer to the evaporator. Sorry, no pictures of the A/C hoses just yet. I'll take a couple once the installation is complete.
I also reinstalled the battery box door. I couldn't find the correct materials to fabricate the check straps so I opted to use some decorative chain as a temporary solution until something better can be found. What the heck, it works!
Oh yeah, I also turned Peanut around so I could put the front right up to the shop overhead door so I could do some welding on the dog house cover. The welding is done on the cover now so just a few more pieces and the dog house will be done.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-18-2017, 04:20 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,533
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Yet more great progress Brad.
I actually like the chains in place of the check straps, so wouldn't worry about replacing!
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03-19-2017, 09:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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I had to wrestle and fight both sides to get the panels to fit properly. Oddly enough the passenger side had to be shortened by 1/4" to get the panel to fit in the same rivet holes
Brad,
Did you replace the pass side floor with 3/4" plywood? I had the same problem. My original floor was 5/8" ply wood and I replaced it with 3/4" coosa. You said all the rivets lined up, did you notice that all of the rivet holes along the bottom were off. When you mount the framing channel on the floor it is actually 1/8" higher than it originally was mounted.
Love all the detailed posts of your progress! Keep them coming.
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03-19-2017, 03:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Brad,
Did you replace the pass side floor with 3/4" plywood? I had the same problem. My original floor was 5/8" ply wood and I replaced it with 3/4" coosa. You said all the rivets lined up, did you notice that all of the rivet holes along the bottom were off. When you mount the framing channel on the floor it is actually 1/8" higher than it originally was mounted.
Love all the detailed posts of your progress! Keep them coming.
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Nope. I used 5/8", same as what was in there. Looking at the floor it looks nice and level and doesn't seem to run uphill towards the wall. Must be one of those quirks of owning an Airstream
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-24-2017, 05:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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All of the A/C lines have been fabricated and installed. The small hose connection on the evaporator is a royal pain to get to. I'm going to have to grind down a 3/4" wrench so I can get some clearance for the wrench to slip onto the nut. The hose fitting block that bolts to the compressor didn't come with the right bolt so I had to use a long one I had on hand with about 8 washers to hold it in place. I'll pick up the correct bolt tonight and fit it tomorrow.
Next step is to remove the compressor, drain all the PAG oil and replace it with Ester oil. After that it will be time to draw a vacuum on the system.
Slowly getting things done
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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03-25-2017, 06:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Did a little grinding on a junk box wrench so I could tighten the high side fitting on the evaporator.
Peanut's starting to look pretty cool........
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04-19-2017, 05:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Just a quick update on Peanut. Last night Ernie and I did another test fit of the left rear banana wrap. When we tried fitting a while back it turned out to be about 2" to short so Ernie had to lengthen it by gluing a piece on the end.
The latest test fit was considerably better. There's a small area at the bottom that needs to be widened about 1/4" so he's going to take care of that and then we'll go ahead and install it.
In the past month or so we've had some pretty large gully gushers and I'm happy to say the only water I've found on the cockpit floor has been a persistent very slow small drip right above the steering wheel. I have a couple of idea's as to where it might be coming from and will be tackling that task over the next month or so.
I'm also just about done with the doghouse opening rebuild. I should have pictures of that posted sometime soon. I thought I had taken a few but I can't find them!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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04-19-2017, 11:05 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Looking good Brad
Ernie certainly can make the ABS parts look new!
Just hope the snake hasn't taken up residence whilst the panels are off!
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04-19-2017, 12:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
Looking good Brad
Ernie certainly can make the ABS parts look new!
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The panel definitely looked good. I asked about what he's using for filler and it turns out he's using ABS as filler and then sanding it down. One of the problems I noticed when the front valance mold was being made was the bondo didn't stick well to the ABS and every time Tim was moving the mold around a section or two would have to be reworked. So with Ernie using ABS as filler what I saw on the valance mold won't happen on the ABS panel.
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Just hope the snake hasn't taken up residence whilst the panels are off!
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Around here you can find snakes just about anywhere. They like to crawl into anything and everything. I always tend to look around a little before I reach into places in the summer months!
Actually as far as working on Peanut at the moment the thing we now have to watch for is this.......
Not 5' from where we were working on the corner wrap a Mallard duck built a nest. I spooked the mother off the nest when I laid the work mat down. So now I have to watch what I'm doing around Peanut for the next month or so!
Earlier this month I found a goose nest in the grass next to a small pond by the barn. That nest didn't last long because Tommy stepped on it and flattened the egg
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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04-26-2017, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Sunday I moved Peanut back up to the house to get away from Momma duck so we could work on it some more without disturbing her
So this evening Ernie and I took the time to install the freshly repaired rear banana wrap and the waste tank piping.
Installing the banana wrap was pretty straight forward. Installing the waste piping was a whole different story. The waste pipes sounded like a simple task until we realized that we had one chance to get the pipes glued together correctly!
We ended up separating the two sections at the waste gate and then very carefully made sure we had each pipe lined up correctly as we pressed the pipes into their respective couplings. Fortunately the alignment came out ok and everything went back to there as expected.
We still need to get the handles set up properly for the two gates but that's a task for another day
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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05-16-2017, 05:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Last weekend Ernie and I replaced the passenger side cockpit window seals. Overall things went fairly well but we've run into a couple of issues that we need to get resolved. The overall problem is the window is somewhat difficult to slide in the track (newer style rubber schlegel) and when it gets to the almost closed position we can't get it to slide all the way into the seal to the fully closed position.
The first issue was the new replacement FIN seal that goes between the two panes of glass was shorter in height than the original one, probably by as much as 1/16". So instead of using that seal we used the larger fuzzy seal that goes between the side slider windows.
The new FIN seal came from Inland and in my opinion definitely doesn't match the original. I had read a few posts on Airforums where it was mentioned that the the new thin seal didn't contact the glass thus allowing a breeze to blow through the gap. The fix was to use the fuzzy stuff like we did.
The second issue is the window won't seat in the fully closed position to where the latch mechanism is latched.
I think the issue is the upper corner of the window frame isn't formed quite right putting a squeeze on the window as it tries to close. When closing the window the glass tries to push the seal out of the way in the upper corner. At the moment the only obvious solution seems to be to try and reform that corner by pulling the outer edge outwards. Before doing that I would like to explore all possible solutions! Any thoughts?
Brad
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05-17-2017, 03:08 PM
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
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It seems the earlier models, including the 79 Excella I owned, need some kind of adjustments to alu channel itself to make it slide and close better. It appears that Airstream got better in the 80's and channel lineup is more consistent.
Its just aluminum and very workable.
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05-17-2017, 03:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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So this situation is not something unique to Peanut. In a way I was hoping it was a unique problem with Peanut but I should have known better!
I'll talk to Ernie about it this weekend and we'll see if we can't come up with a "tweak" of our own
Thanks for the feedback!
Brad
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06-23-2017, 10:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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Ernie put some more time in working on Peanut's passenger cockpit window and I spent some time installing the new tail light assemblies and rear rub rail and assisting Ernie on the window.
I made a tool for tweaking the window track and Ernie spent the morning making small adjustments and checking fit. That process repeated itself all morning with moderate success. We believe the track itself has been adjusted about as much as it can be. One area still presents a problem and that is where the vertical divider fastens to the top of the window frame. The vertical bar twists or bows inward slightly at that point. We have found that if Ernie forces the rubber track outwards slightly while I close the window from the inside the window closes far enough with moderate effort. If he doesn't hold the track out of the way I can't get the window to seat at all.
Looking at it closer it appears that we might be able to grind the offending portion of the track/frame down a little to provide some clearance. I think the bottom line is if we can grind that spot down enough we might just have a working window.
As for the tail lights, we installed (with clecos) the two upper rub rails and then I installed the two tail light assemblies. The fit is good enough on the passenger side and I believe the housing will seal ok. The drivers side has a gap in the bottom center of the housing between the housing and the skin. The gap is due to all the dents in the rear quarter. Ernie straightened them as best he could but there's only so much you can do with stretched aluminum. I'll figure out some way to seal it
I haven't connected the wires to the tail lights yet. If time and weather permits I'll get that done this weekend.
Brad
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06-23-2017, 11:25 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,533
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Any chance the use of a small 'persuader' on the inside of the top track at the point the vertical bar joins could help Brad?
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