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Old 05-31-2016, 07:07 PM   #253
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Well if the need does arise to use a different generator modifying the back corner of the existing enclosure won't be much of a problem. The only thing back there is the battery feed and fuel feed for the generator. Not sure why Airstream wasted space like they did.
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Space is at such a premium of these little MH seems crazy the way Argosy wasted it!
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Old 05-31-2016, 07:22 PM   #254
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I had been researching the older EV 4000 RV Peter. There are a few 'dubious' units around but this one in Spokane looks to be very good, http://spokane.craigslist.org/for/5561634494.html



Mind you the basis of me even looking is Honda = reliability and maybe that wasn't the case for the older units?
Martin, nice! Wished the run time of 21 hours could be verified.
Good price if it does what it claims.
I had the newer EV4010 for almost 10 years and it never failed me. The 345 I had came with an EV6010 still in the box. I installed it and loved the way it handled full load. (after I dismantled the carb, since someone years ago fired it up once and left fuel in the carb).
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I had been researching the older EV 4000 RV Peter. There are a few 'dubious' units around but this one in Spokane looks to be very good, http://spokane.craigslist.org/for/5561634494.html



Mind you the basis of me even looking is Honda = reliability and maybe that wasn't the case for the older units?
I wonder what the foot print is for the Honda generator?
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I wonder what the foot print is for the Honda generator?
Not sure of the foot print (although I have the manual) but the dimensions are what I attached a few posts back.

There is a 'running' unit closer to hand (Fredericksburg, PA) listed on eBay - it's running, and currently $250 but the seller is quoting $171 to deliver to 40475. It also looks to be missing the remote control panel and the muffler.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172216907573...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Not sure of the foot print (although I have the manual) but the dimensions are what I attached a few posts back.
Based on the dimensions for the EV4000 it will fit if the back wall is modified.

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There is a 'running' unit closer to hand (Fredericksburg, PA) listed on eBay - it's running, and currently $250 but the seller is quoting $171 to deliver to 40475. It also looks to be missing the remote control panel and the muffler.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172216907573...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The remote panel apparently has an hour meter, start/stop switch and running light. I would think a start/stop switch similar to what the Onan generators use would suffice.
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Based on the dimensions for the EV4000 it will fit if the back wall is modified.
Seems like a good reason to wait and see how the original BF runs!
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https://youtu.be/N8QlrE1IEaQ

Tested the generator tonight and it runs and produces AC.

There is something wrong in the starting circuit so I had to file the points, replace the plug wires with old ones I had laying around and I had to hot wire it to get it to start. The start button turns the motor over but no voltage was getting to the coil which necessitated the hot wire. There's not much to the start circuit so it shouldn't take to much time or money to get it to work.

At a minimum it will need points, condenser, plugs, plug wires, air filter, oil and filter change and whatever parts are needed to fix the starting circuit.

Bottom line is it seems to sound good, doesn't smoke and started relatively easy especially when you consider how long it's been since it was last started.


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Tested the generator tonight and it runs and produces AC.

There is something wrong in the starting circuit so I had to file the points, replace the plug wires with old ones I had laying around and I had to hot wire it to get it to start. The start button turns the motor over but no voltage was getting to the coil which necessitated the hot wire. There's not much to the start circuit so it shouldn't take to much time or money to get it to work.

At a minimum it will need points, condenser, plugs, plug wires, air filter, oil and filter change and whatever parts are needed to fix the starting circuit.

Bottom line is it seems to sound good, doesn't smoke and started relatively easy especially when you consider how long it's been since it was last started.


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Brad,
I re-worked my "old" 4.0BF generator last summer. It was somewhat of a trial and error process but in the end it runs like a top. Last winter in colder weather and last summer and now also, it starts and runs readily. In the end the ignition parts were replaced along with a carburetor kit, and a new fuel pump.
Do you have the Onan service information for the circuit information of the start circuit? Overall the BF units really have a simple and straight forward circuit.
If you need details I can send information.
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Gregg,

It's good to hear the old BF is still a good generator! I like the older equipment as it's usually easier to troubleshoot

When you said you use a carburetor kit are you referring to the kit with just the gaskets or the complete rebuild kit that costs about $200?

I do have the various Onan manuals for the BF and have been using them to trouble shoot.

I tinkered with it a little bit today and it has a whole new problem right now with I believe relay K1 and the starter solenoid. I need to get the ignition parts on order and I think I'll order a replacement K1 relay and starter solenoid.

Thanks!

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I just used the kit with the gaskets, not the expensive one for a complete carburetor rebuild. My unit had just under 600 hrs on it but had gotten out of adjustment and sat along with the motorhome. I also obtained the two new intake manifold gaskets as part of the rework. After soaking the carb in a carb cleaner bucket, I then re-assembled the carb and carefully set the idle mixture and main jet adjustments to 1 1/4 turns per the manual. Checking the ambient temperature I set choke to the correct position.
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Here is a re-sketched schematic that I made last year for my own use.

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Where:
BT1 is the chassis battery
CR1 Rectifier
E1 is the electric choke
E2, E3 are the spark plugs (Autolite 216)
E4 is the fuel pump
F1,2 5A 32V fuses
G1 Generator
K1 Start Solenoid
K2 Ignition Relay
S1 Start/Stop Switch
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S3 Low Oil Pressure Switch
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Note: Both Plugs are fired simultaneously
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Peanut is now sporting new water and power steering pumps
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Unfortunately as Gregg mentioned previously the replacement high pressure hose doesn't fit worth a crap The tube coming out of the back of the pump is less than 1/4" away from the exhaust manifold. There's no way that's going to work.
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I'll have to take the original hose to the local Napa and have them install a new hose using the old fittings.


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Even more ridiculous is how it wraps over the top of the master cylinder. It's also really close to the transmission shifter linkage.

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Gregg, thanks for the diagram and info. I'll probably get back to the generator sometime next weekend.
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