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Old 06-28-2017, 11:50 AM   #15
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Looks like there is no kitchen?
The fridge has rotten food in it.( not even a rv fridge I don't think?)
I see fridge is by the door if you look close
There is a cabinet beside right hand side
Is this a double bed model? From what one can see?
Is there the door over the generator( what is your guess)
What year and size is this?
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Old 06-28-2017, 01:48 PM   #16
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It's a 74 to 76 Argosy and probably a 28'.

If the price is right it could be a steal. As far as the exterior goes it looks like the generator cover is missing.

Good luck!

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Old 06-28-2017, 01:51 PM   #17
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They only made 20 and 24 footers in 74 so it's either a 75 or 76. Also the rear bumper appears to have been pushed up somewhat as well.
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Old 06-28-2017, 04:20 PM   #18
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Yes he told me about that the bumper got damaged from tow truck. When I talked to the seller I asked if the cover for the Benny was there he said it was and then proceeded to ask a few more questions and it was obvious he never looked at this to closely nor was interested in it. If I do get it I will be posting more. I'd love to be able to heavily modify a motorhome with out throwing to much money in the wind.

Thanks for the approximate year on motorhome it will help on a bill of sale. My province is pretty relaxed so if I'm a year off and shows that in the system they will just correct it
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Yes he told me about that the bumper got damaged from tow truck. When I talked to the seller I asked if the cover for the Benny was there he said it was and then proceeded to ask a few more questions and it was obvious he never looked at this to closely nor was interested in it. If I do get it I will be posting more. I'd love to be able to heavily modify a motorhome with out throwing to much money in the wind.
Depending on the mods it would be easy to throw lots of money in the wind!

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Thanks for the approximate year on motorhome it will help on a bill of sale. My province is pretty relaxed so if I'm a year off and shows that in the system they will just correct it
Assuming you get the Argosy you'll be able to determine the exact year by looking at the Vin number. The vin number should look something like this CPL374V31xxxx where the 4 would either be a 4 a 5 or a 6. With 4 = 1974, 5 = 1976 and 6 = 1976.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:28 PM   #20
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Well 12 more hours till I get to see this mid 70's argosy in person. The tow bill should be covered under my AMA membership. At $2500cad(1950usd) I cannot go wrong even if this ol coach doesn't run. Up here in Canada all airstream products are much more rare then per capita of USA. Even if this is argosy.......
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Old 07-07-2017, 04:21 PM   #21
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Old 07-07-2017, 04:31 PM   #22
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It was beyond gone......

With that being said I'm considering it still and if it gets snatched up I won't be to upset. I am wondering if there are many parts to sell that are worth much? This unit has past its expiry and the interior mostly gone. I started a thread about parts and after the huge list you wrote down it's sad to say there are a lot of xxxx

One more issue is the girlfriend is giving me grief also..

So bkahler if I wanted to add the skylights from argosy - airstream this should be a simple procedure? I'm a carpenter...... I should clarify, are there structural robe or can I almost literally put them in without removing inside paneling?
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Hey, a fellow wood butcher! Look at us crazy woodpeckers taking on projects like these queens. We should be locked up.

As for installing skylights, or vent windows as some people call them; be careful as there can be wires running underneath the skin, but it can be done without too much muss or fuss. I personally would be loath to cut an additional opening in my skin, as it's just one more place to leak, but that's just me.

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Old 07-08-2017, 05:37 AM   #24
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It was beyond gone......

With that being said I'm considering it still and if it gets snatched up I won't be to upset. I am wondering if there are many parts to sell that are worth much? This unit has past its expiry and the interior mostly gone. I started a thread about parts and after the huge list you wrote down it's sad to say there are a lot of xxxx
The easiest parts to sell would be the cockpit windows and the windshields. The issue with any of the windows is shipping. That can be a real hassle. Only you can determine if it's worth the hassle.

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Can't help you there......

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So bkahler if I wanted to add the skylights from argosy - airstream this should be a simple procedure? I'm a carpenter...... I should clarify, are there structural robe or can I almost literally put them in without removing inside paneling?
I'm with Tony on this issue. Adding more windows is a good way to ask for leaks. Martin added the small curved windows above the standard windows and the effects are awesome. However the work on Bella was done with the inner skin removed which had to have made things considerably easier to deal with. I considered adding them to my Argosy and decided that's just to many more places for water to enter so I've opted not to add them. Besides, I'm to lazy to want to do even more work!

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Old 07-08-2017, 12:29 PM   #25
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I'm pretty lucky being a well rounded carpenter popping a few extra holes does not scare me to easily lol. I'd would imagine structurally all these coaches are " typical". So therefore no ribs would be in the way. I'm beyond selling this coach now and I will be committing money in the future to customize to my liking. ( thankfully I have damn good taste and have proven this time and again on house renovations with many unseen things I dreamed up and put into action)

Right now a couple things on my dream radar are:

Fabricating Roto dinette benches to be exact functionality as originals ( we want 3 kids so transportation is becoming an issue already with 1 child.

- build a storage slide out in bumped up floor where roto benches are

- I've said from the beginning I'm not a fan of the upper staorage cabinets in the Airstreams and would like to get rid of 2 per side at the front. When I seen the skylights in the argosy I was sold! They let the front be roomier also.

- I have observed the structural bump up on the argosy for the roto really cramps the floor. The fold down bed on the other side is 30"? My cabinets I would shrink to 18" ideally but probably 20" because of the curved walls. This would add substantial working space at the feet a full 12" extra vs original design.

- keeping close to original bump of approx 30" where sink is but coming into 20" for the stove( what a great design the 69 stove is also!! Head clearance is an issue for 6foot tall or taller but that's okay I'm shorter than that lol.

-shrink kitchen 12-16 inches ( towards drivers seat)on drivers side , utilize 3 burner stovetop from 69 sovereign international airstream able to utilize holes in exterior still for exhaust. Single bowl apron sink. And 60" of counter where fold down couch is. At lower elevation because of windows( basically be the height of bathroom counter 32" vs 36" for kitchen

-maybe Ditch the cabinets on side of fridge, move fridge away from door 2-3 inches. To give more "space". Wall panel that separates bedwill be beside fridge.

I'm pretty sure 99% ( tell me if I'm wrong?) the doors on an argosy are the same dimensions? I really like the door glass I would put that on the airstream also! So swap out door or install window either or.

-In bedroom get rid of the tall cabinets for hanging clothes. Use the upper cabinets from argosy so I can make bunks. ( I would need the two longer ones put in the airstream.)

I reallly really like the double bed slide out in the argosy!!! Me and my lady can fit on a twin but it's too crammed so A double bed would make all the difference.

- I also love how the bed folds up into a couch! So I'd like that on both sides too.
- a huge Tetris bed room to make couches and bunks on the one side anyways.

- the whole reason for shrinking the front is I feel the bathroom unexceptable in size and I'm a male.... I want at least a foot on the tub/ shower side extra. A 12-16" cabinet full height on opposite side can accommodate tall items or hangs some clothes from the lose in bedroom area.

One only has to be in a 1969 31' airstream to want that in the motorhome floorplan
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:47 PM   #26
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So as it turns out this argosy dropped in price after many people came out to look and the general consensus was unanimous; a complete turd.

If I want to customize my airstream there are parts that I can utilize and without those I cannot do any of my dreams and ideas. Another solid 8 to 10 hour trip to drive to Saskatchewan and now I'm walking away with the bill of sale for $1000 for a 1976 argosy motorhome that's 28 feet long and will be purely be for parts .
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Good deal!

I'm sure you'll be getting requests from a variety of people looking for parts. When you get a chance post some pictures of your find.

Some things that are unique to the 74-76 Argosies would be the cockpit side panels, the dash top and the dash face, actually anything associated with the dash would be unique.

All of the front grille parts and bumpers would be unique as well. I'm not sure what your ability to store parts is like but the more you can stash away the better the odds are that you'll be sell the bulkier stuff.

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Old 07-10-2017, 10:45 PM   #28
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Sounds like I get delivery possibly next week from flatbed so once I get it then I can upload many pictures.

I do have some storage space in a shed barn. I do not want to dedicate to much space tho..... maybe 150 sq feet of floor space. I can build shelving to stack pieces up too. Girlfriend is not too happy about this so it's going to sit for a year ( looks good the way it is.and once I start chewing into it it will have to be gone by that fall.... I promised this will be gone in 3 years( in the fall)100%.I'm in Canada so anything large would be cost prohibitive to ship unless someone desperately needs a part. I'm going to go for the easiest stuff most likely then I will unfortunately have to chop up and haul to the dump in a. CArgo trailer.
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