Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-28-2015, 05:32 PM   #85
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
New generator arrived so I popped over to the shop to see if it would fit in the space the guys have left to store it (when driving). I have picked up a LowPro lock down plate to hold it secure but it was good to see it at least fitted in the space behind the A/C within the dummy night-stand.



Wet-room and closet cabinetry finished now as well (although the handles still have to be fitted)



Not so visible is the on-going work on the dash A/C. Despite the techs best efforts we are sure it is never going to work really well, so I have decided to bite the bullet get a complete new custom setup from Classic Auto Air, with additional outlets ducted back into the step down into the main living area.

Biggest issue now is the trimming of the skins around the new Vista View
windows. What should have been an easy task appears not so, and we have now tried both types of plastic close-outs (no joy because the Vista Views are too close to the main sliders), current aluminum trims (too short), the trims that were used on International and other Stack Windows, Unless I can sources 5 of these....



(Airstream PN#106760) then I am going to have to get some custom rolled.
__________________

__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2015, 09:42 AM   #86
Rivet Master
 
Vycan's Avatar
 
1994 36' Classic 36 Diesel
Manhattan , Kansas
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 647
Blog Entries: 1
Absolutely Gorgeous! Looking forward to the next post.

What system did you go with for the A/C? Our dash A/C is about worthless because of the space in the motor home and only the front gets kind of cool (maybe 10 deg less than ambient), and it drops off sharply every foot your travel back. Only way to keep her cool is to run the generator and the A/C's.
__________________

__________________
1994 36' Classic Diesel Pusher
Vycan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2015, 10:48 AM   #87
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
Thanks Vycan, we are pretty happy with the way it is going.

I had been talking to the guys at Vintage Air and they had specified one of their SureFit systems as a direct replacement (http://www.vintageair.com/2014catalo...08-15%2038.pdf). At that time the plan was to run the main A/C if needed (the small ClimateRight unit in the actual main body can run via the inverter). But it was going to be a pain to get air flow around it on the move (it is located within the dummy nightstand even though it is accessed from outside) so we decided just to use that when parked up, and so needed to upgrade the dash A/C for on the move.

I then started talking to Steve Rejkowski at Classic Auto Air as they make not only direct replacements but also upgrade systems to fit in the same locations. What we are getting is based on one of their Street Rod Cooler III systems but with electric controls. Once they guys get it in and show it works I will share a list of what we needed - just want to make sure it works before miss-leading folks.
__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2015, 06:52 PM   #88
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
Unfortunately this has been a 'two steps back' week.

The guys weren't happy with the fit of the generator, or rather the easy of removal of the generator when mounted to the LowPro, so when I visited yesterday they are part way through moving the hatch up by approx an inch.

Add in three separate custom fab shops have said they can't make the window trims, and the one that said they would try is talking about $800 per window as a starting point. Means I have spent most of the weekend experimenting with rolling aluminum angle......

Being ready for a first outing at Chilly Man is looking less likely.
__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2015, 09:15 PM   #89
Rivet Master
 
SteveSueMac's Avatar

 
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W , New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,755
Sorry to hear that. Maybe this week will be a 5 step forward week. And MH or not - I hope you can make chilly man anyway!
__________________
SteveSueMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2015, 07:31 PM   #90
4 Rivet Member
 
Gregsch's Avatar

 
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City , Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 388
I have really enjoyed following your thread. I have learned so much from your experience. Building one of these from scratch is not for the weak of heart. Hang in there, you will soon be cruising down the highway with a sense of pride and satisfaction that few will ever know. God speed.
__________________
Gregsch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2015, 11:17 PM   #91
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
Thanks for the encouragement; I understand it's 'the way of things' and just challenges to overcome.

I more thinking of the guys at the shop; I ordered the generator back in December and when it no-showed, they had to build based on measurements - most of the time that is fine, this time it bit us.
__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 08:59 PM   #92
4 Rivet Member
 
Gregsch's Avatar

 
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City , Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 388
I am not clear on the problem with the vista view windows. I see the picture of the fame you are trying to install. Did you see the vista view window on E-bay right now? It appears to be brand new never installed.
__________________
Gregsch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 09:27 PM   #93
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
I just checked out the ones on Ebay, they do look like new (never installed) windows, but I would still have the problem.

Regular cabin windows have a 'frame' so that when they are riveted in to the out skin they close the gap to the inner skin, however the VistaView/stack windows don't have the frame; the gap between the inner skin and window needs to be 'closed-out'.

The issue is the normal 'close-outs' are much bigger than the windows, and are profiled/scalloped a little like the surrounds of an aircraft window - they take up a lot of real-estate. When the shop added the VistaViews they were limited by previous holes etc and they ended up about 3inches lower (closer to the main windows) and there is no room for the regular close-outs.

So, I ordered some trims from the current Airstream range (which are bent from aluminum angle) but they were too high and have a semi-circle end shape (the old VistaViews are a quarter curve, a short straight, then the second curve) - so wouldn't work.

So, I ordered some that where used for a short time on the International around 2004, again too wide.

So, I ordered some plastic trims from 30" stack windows from 1969 - 1993, too short.

....and the sage continues.
__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2015, 03:58 PM   #94
Rivet Master
 
Vycan's Avatar
 
1994 36' Classic 36 Diesel
Manhattan , Kansas
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 647
Blog Entries: 1
Martin,

Have you considered a machine shop? If you bring in the specs they can make anything to your desire as long as you either show them what you want, or have the technical specs for them to make it. It would also likely cost you 1 hour of labor plus materials. Additionally I have found if you stop by a machine shop and just chat with them for a bit (assuming they are not busy) they will cut you a good deal as they are more concerned with repeat business.
__________________
1994 36' Classic Diesel Pusher
Vycan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2015, 07:47 PM   #95
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
I have asked at a couple of machine shops that also do fab, but so far no joy.

I will try some of the local water-jet or CNC guys, but I'm not sure if a machined part would have enough flex to take the third axis curve of the window/skin, or if the curve would have to be cut in and that will be more difficult (=expensive).
__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2015, 11:55 AM   #96
Rivet Master
 
Vycan's Avatar
 
1994 36' Classic 36 Diesel
Manhattan , Kansas
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 647
Blog Entries: 1
If that does not pan out, also try a municipal airfield, and ask if they have an airframe repair shop. That will be expensive, but they can do anything with aluminum. If you do not know of any use www.skyvector.com to find the nearest one to you.
__________________
1994 36' Classic Diesel Pusher
Vycan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2015, 02:05 PM   #97
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Manston , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,639
Will do Vycan, there are a couple of small airfields nearby.

In the meantime the first progress update isn't really obvious.



But note the shore power, as the Magnum and on-board electrics are all working.

But that also means the Fant-tastic vents are in and for the first time I can see how clean the inside and outside roof line look (sans AC and other roof vents).



But also the on-board ducted air AC/heat is in and running, nestled behind the generator.

__________________
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2015, 03:47 PM   #98
Rivet Master
 
Vycan's Avatar
 
1994 36' Classic 36 Diesel
Manhattan , Kansas
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 647
Blog Entries: 1
Just curious... do you have any plans to isolate the AC from the generator and isolate airflow from the two to prevent either from increasing ambient temps and reducing the efficiency of the other?
__________________

__________________
1994 36' Classic Diesel Pusher
Vycan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
'74 Argosy 20' Motorhome restoration/rebuild bkahler Argosy Motorhomes 747 Yesterday 02:21 PM
1974 Argosy MH dash A/C rebuild bkahler Argosy Motorhomes 1 03-16-2013 05:47 PM
Phipps Park Martin County Florida chaimemet On The Road... 2 12-06-2008 10:28 PM
Argosy rebuild list bkahler Argosy Motorhomes 2 07-25-2008 02:21 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.