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Old 10-05-2015, 11:39 AM   #323
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Amazing rebuild Martin!

Hi Martin,

Just came across this thread and pretty much went through it all. I've met Brad as I have bought some parts off his parted out 345. Great guy and very knowledgeable and helpful as with many others here on the forum.

Keep up the amazing work and look forward to seeing Belle completed!

I have an 86 345 Classic MH that is polished and now - 3 years later ... just started to do the interior updating. Have you considered "polishing" Bella instead of painting? I've seen a couple of Argosy polished - but the end cap may be made of a different metal that could be polished???


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Old 10-05-2015, 03:24 PM   #324
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Hi Martin,

Just came across this thread and pretty much went through it all. I've met Brad as I have bought some parts off his parted out 345. Great guy and very knowledgeable and helpful as with many others here on the forum.

Keep up the amazing work and look forward to seeing Belle completed!

I have an 86 345 Classic MH that is polished and now - 3 years later ... just started to do the interior updating. Have you considered "polishing" Bella instead of painting? I've seen a couple of Argosy polished - but the end cap may be made of a different metal that could be polished???


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Hi Sam

When we started (long before we ended up bringing Bella to NE) I generated a Pinterest page of 'ideas'. It was using that that we got the initial estimate from Hofarc, and then the couple of restorers in Florida. I then gave the guys at Airstream NE a short (3-4 page) document of those ideas and over the first 2-3 weeks of work in their shop it expanded to about 7 pages.

Although all the themes still stand, I don't think one aspect is exactly the same as the original 'idea'.

One of those ideas was polishing; that turned from polishing, to a chrome paint finish (I liked the idea of washing to get the shine back!), to a single color metallic, until one day DW suddenly said....I don't want to change the color too much, its what makes an Argosy, an Argosy. It is about the only time she has given any preference about anything on Bella; so that's what we are having.....at least for the moment!
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Old 10-06-2015, 08:31 AM   #325
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I will check tonight Brad....I don't remember seeing it. I believe mine has four extensions (two front/two side) each of which has a corner bracket through which the mounting bolt goes.
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Martin,

I'm going to scrap that piece of sheet metal at the front. It's less than 1/8" thick and was held to the frame with four small sheet metal screws that were sheared off at sometime in the past. I'll just drill two holes in the front of the bumper where the ears are and be done with it.

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Mine definitely just has the 4 extensions Brad; each has a 'end plate' (approx 5" long) but with the mounting holes just on one side.
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That makes the most sense to me. I really think my Argosy is one of the first ones produced and Airstream was "learning" how to do some things. My guess is they had the bumper made and then found that the front extensions didn't mate to the front of the bumper so they made the sheet metal support to overcome the problem.

I plan on bolting the bumper to the Argosy using the side extensions to locate it properly and then add whatever is needed to get the front extensions to contact the front part of the bumper. After that I'll drill a couple of holes and be done with it. Much simpler!

Thanks for the info!

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I doubt it is relevant but for some reason the bolts in the front extensions are 3/8" but the bolts at the sides are 1/2", both sizes are coach-bolts (I replaced with stainless)
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I'll have to see what hole sizes are on mine. Regardless if the fronts are 3/8" I'll probably just drill them to 1/2" so everything looks the same. I had planned on replacing with stainless as well.

Before any of that happens I'm going to paint all of the chassis components at the front and inside the engine compartment before I start putting anything back on. I'm trying to do it right the "first time"
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I am starting to develop a love/hate relationship with Bella

To update the brakes situation; I think the last post was that I found a (very) local shop that would look at the brakes. I have waited for a couple of weeks from them to have an open slot, I drive Bella over, brake light is still on. I park 'it' up, go to work.I get a call from the shop....mechanic: whats the problem? me: the brake warning light is on, mechanic: no its not, me; well it was this morning and has been each time I checked over the last few weeks, mechanic; well it isn't now.

So i call in this evening, guess what no warning light, I try and do emergency stops in their lot to get it to come back - nothing. I drive home (300yds) pull into the drive, reverse into the space where we park, I am going less than walking speed so gently apply the brakes.....frigging light comes on!
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I am starting to develop a love/hate relationship with Bella

To update the brakes situation; I think the last post was that I found a (very) local shop that would look at the brakes. I have waited for a couple of weeks from them to have an open slot, I drive Bella over, brake light is still on. I park 'it' up, go to work.I get a call from the shop....mechanic: whats the problem? me: the brake warning light is on, mechanic: no its not, me; well it was this morning and has been each time I checked over the last few weeks, mechanic; well it isn't now.

So i call in this evening, guess what no warning light, I try and do emergency stops in their lot to get it to come back - nothing. I drive home (300yds) pull into the drive, reverse into the space where we park, I am going less than walking speed so gently apply the brakes.....frigging light comes on!
Martin,
Sorry, hindsight, but I would have told them to PLEASE go through the brake system. Light or no light, I think considering the age and the unknown, its time for someone to take all the wheels and drums off and check everything, unless you already had all that work done and are only trying to chase down that light issue.
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I went a little further than that Peter.

Airstream NE is supposed to have gone through brakes/steering/suspensions and serviced everything (wheels/drums off etc). But now I have asked the local shop to not 'mess about', remove and check everything; replace where appropriate, and upgrade if there is something better (new suspension, complete Henderson Supersteer setup, disc brakes at the back).

I had been trying to get 'running repairs' done to allow us to use for the last few weekends of the season, but have now decided to just pull the trigger on being ready for next season.
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I went a little further than that Peter.

Airstream NE is supposed to have gone through brakes/steering/suspensions and serviced everything (wheels/drums off etc). But now I have asked the local shop to not 'mess about', remove and check everything; replace where appropriate, and upgrade if there is something better (new suspension, complete Henderson Supersteer setup, disc brakes at the back).

I had been trying to get 'running repairs' done to allow us to use for the last few weekends of the season, but have now decided to just pull the trigger on being ready for next season.
I should have figured as thorough as you are with everything...
Now you may understand why I have an Airstream trailer and an Airstream Motorhome. The trailer is now ready to go at anytime and I can take the luxury of taking my time to do things right on the Motorhome.
And BTW, camping seasons starts now down here in the south...Yeah!
Remember that when you come this way, Summer is not always the most pleasurable time of the year for us.
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How is the brake light activated, mechanically? I understand "when" it might happen but what happens in the mechanics that triggers the switch to the light?


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