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Old 06-08-2015, 07:21 AM   #183
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Looking good Martin! Can't wait to hear about your first camping trip. Can you let us know how you ended up updating the dash AC?
I certainly will Gregsch, I am holding off detailing individual systems until I know they work - last thing I want to do is give a recommendation which then fails.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:41 AM   #184
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Wow. Just.. wow Martin. What an amazing build. Who on earth would want a new AS when you could be driving around in Bella instead. Congratulations for setting the bar so high.
Thanks for the comments Ben.

I have said several times in this and other threads that I regard your rebuild as less of of 'personalization' but more building what I wish Airstream still made.....a classic style, A class motorhome. If they did we would have simply bought one.

Judging by the number of folks that have seen the rebuild at the dealer and commented that they would still buy an Interstate size classic, there is a market.

I have no issue with the van conversions, it just wasn't what I wanted. Even if Airstream wanted to stay in the Daimler family they could offer a MFTBC (Mitsubishi Fuso Truck and Bus Corporation) cabover chassis based classic, using 90% of current trailer parts.

Actually I think we would have changed chassis on Bella if it wasn't for one thing. We are looking to ship to UK/Europe in the future and exporting/importing a 1975 Argosy is like exporting a vintage car vs importing a modern Fuso chassis with a Argosy body requiring UK/European Individual Vehicle Approval.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:47 AM   #185
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Very sage (get it, sage) colour choice Martin. I bought a similar colour on my 07 Altima 3.5 SE 6 sp as it doesn't show dust, scuffs or scratches near to the same extent as darker colours do. It will reflect quite a bit of light and a rain will be enough to wash it.

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I think the word 'sage' is really appropriate. Seems sometimes Willow Green comes out with a slight blue tint what I am looking for is a slightly 'old school' color.....like the Porcelain Green they used on Morris Minors/Classic Minis except deeper/richer

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Old 06-08-2015, 12:59 PM   #186
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Nearly certain it will be Willow Green (Ditzler PPG 43391) as used on the mid to late sixties GM models. However before we jump in, the paint shop is doing some checking (they are a PPG shop) as the same color code seems to result in quite a range of finishes, dependent on how it is applied

Either way we will keep the center-line the original Argosy main body (off white) color.
Wow! I learned to drive on a Willow Green 1965 Biscayne Chevy! My parents bought it brand new in 1965 with automatic transmission, manual brakes and manual steering. Great color choice!

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Old 06-21-2015, 05:39 PM   #187
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Hmmm.....so, the 'dry run' weekend of camping locally has not been a total success.

Total distance traveled = 0miles
Amount of water mopped out from inside = about 2pints, maybe I should have called it a 'wet run'.

The trouble is this doesn't account for the water that has leaked into the dash/cab carpet/engine bay etc which probably accounts for the engine refusing to start and causing the 0 miles traveled. I couldn't even get it to run so I could drive under cover. Luckily the rain has stopped, the sun is out, so maybe it will dry out enough to start and drive make into the workshop tomorrow, because there are 3 of the newly installed windows leaking as well as the freshly installed, brand new windscreens.

Water had also got into the compartments housing the interior electrics (magnum inverter, distribution panel, furnace and fridge etc) so I wouldn't risk hitting the master switch to enable the interior systems to be tested.

Earlier in the build I said it felt like we were having a brand new motorhome built, maybe the shop wanted us to fully experience the 'new Airstream' experience by letting us QC their work?

The trip to Maine for the NEU Rally at Lake Permaquid is definitely looking in doubt.
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Old 06-21-2015, 05:54 PM   #188
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So sorry to hear this, Martin!
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A friend of mine use to be big into the 50'-60's Shepherd mahogany powerboats and told me the story of someone who had bought a Shepherd, that hadn't been in water for years. He brought the boat to my friend to have a once over before he was to take it to the cottage and launch it. My friend suggested they take it down to the local boat ramp to show him one big problem with that idea.

Using my friends Dodge Cummins diesel they backed down the launch. The boat floated free of the trailer and the proud new owner looked on with delight wanting to take her for a spin...........it wasn't long before the boat settled lower and lower in the water until it settled right back down on the trailer. It took a pretty souped up Cummins 3/4 ton to get her out of the water with water flowing from practically every seam in the hull.

The shocked new owner was told to lower the boat at a marina in a cradle and leave her there for two plus weeks.

Airstreams are "Land Yachts"

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Martin, really sorry to hear about the water leak. I do hope you lay down a firm hand with the shop. They should be liable for this and treat you well. Correct their negligence and go through everything again. I hope you get a positive resolution.

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The 'first read' from the shop is the the water leak has taken out either the power to/or the fuel pump itself, so that isn't too painful.

Biggest issue is stopping it leaking again - they claim to have soaked tested it during a previous rainstorm with no issues, so are a little surprised.

Good news is I dropped off the custom window trims this morning, so the shop has to cut the skins to insert those, which will expose the outer skin where the worst leak is coming from and they should have access.

I do like Tony's analogy....but it sounds familiar. I live by the ocean in a 'boating' community. When we moved in we bought a 'break out another thousand' (typically shorted to 'boat') from the local marina. We had it inspected before handing over the cash, and it got a clean bill of health, but it had been out of the water for about 15 years. Of course as soon as they put it on the cradle and dropped it in the water, water poured in. The marina claimed that old boats dry out and need to rehydrate, until I pointed out it was a fiberglass boat and a porous fiberglass hull is not going to rehydrate. They replaced the gel coat and it looked fine and we had it for about 4 years, during which the bilge pump run constantly, before we were lucky and whilst in winter storage someone stole the engines. I didn't get any money back from insurance (the value was below my deductible) but the relief to simply 'get rid' was worth it....just hope Bella doesn't turn out to be the same!
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Well the fuel pump is back up and running, but it appears to be the catalyst for other problems.

After the fuel pump repair the engine wouldn't idle so the guys at the shop popped the top of the carb to make sure nothing nasty got through. Bearing in mind I have a brand new tank, new hoses, new fuel lines, new main fuel filter, they weren't expecting to find what they did.....its nasty, and obviously has been nasty for a while.





I have already been in contact with Dick Paterson up and Springfield Ignition and started the ball rolling about getting it re-manufactured - but that will take a little over three weeks (being peak season), so considering options in between time. Summit Racing do a reman'ed Quadrajet off the shelf but reman'ed Quadrajets have a pretty bad reputation; or I could switch to a Holley/Edelbrock but long term we have already been looking at a MSD Atomic EFI system or even a Nash Fuels LPG so I don't really want to convert to another carb and then convert again pretty soon after but also want to start using Bella so don't want to get too involved in conversion now.....or maybe I should just be more patient!!!
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I'd rebuild it for you for free, but I'm on the "other" side of the country!
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I'd rebuild it for you for free, but I'm on the "other" side of the country!
Nothing that overnight shipping can't solve!
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