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martin300662 · 12-01-2015, 01:49 PM

Windscreens and windscreen seals are the same from 1974 to the 'anteaters' (Tony's description, not mine!)

Gregsch · 12-01-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJ

How was the gasket originally sealed to the skin on the MH at the top?

I don't think my spline is leaking, it's the seal at the top against the skin...

I have a 76', the seal listed was for the next Gen on MH's. Are the windows different?

Thanks for the info/pix guys.

I am not suggesting that the spline leaks but, that by removing the spline you can peel the gasket back away from the body allowing you to place sealant between the body and the gasket.

bkahler · 12-01-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregsch

I am not suggesting that the spline leaks but, that by removing the spline you can peel the gasket back away from the body allowing you to place sealant between the body and the gasket.

Now that's interesting, I'd not considered that approach before. Using this method would certainly help in making the windshield water tight.

I'm going to have to look closer at my rubber gasket to see how hard or easy it would be to remove the spline.

Brad

PeterH-350LE · 12-01-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bkahler

Now that's interesting, I'd not considered that approach before. Using this method would certainly help in making the windshield water tight.

I'm going to have to look closer at my rubber gasket to see how hard or easy it would be to remove the spline.

Brad

I think removing it is easy, installing may be a different story. They do make a spline installation tool.

one version looks like this

bkahler · 12-02-2015, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer

I think removing it is easy, installing may be a different story. They do make a spline installation tool.

one version looks like this

Yeah, taking something apart is easy. It's getting it back together again that's the real problem!

The spline tool you pictured seems to only be available in the UK. Not cheap especially when you add in shipping from the UK.

Know of any other sources for the tool?

martin300662 · 12-02-2015, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bkahler

Yeah, taking something apart is easy. It's getting it back together again that's the real problem!

The spline tool you pictured seems to only be available in the UK. Not cheap especially when you add in shipping from the UK.

Know of any other sources for the tool?

If it helps I will be going back to my place in UK over Christmas, so can carry it back if needed?

Smartstream · 12-02-2015, 11:06 AM

These tools are not hard to find. Windshield Locking Strip Tool They have 3 or 4 different tools from about $12 to $25.

bkahler · 12-03-2015, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Smartstream

These tools are not hard to find. Windshield Locking Strip Tool They have 3 or 4 different tools from about $12 to $25.

Thanks Dan.

There are some definite differences in design! The one posted by Peter would from appearances seem to be the best for removing or installing a spline. But that doesn't mean it's better, just different.

Has anyone used any of the various spline install/removal tools that could give a recommendation as to which is the easiest to use?

bkahler · 12-03-2015, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by martin300662

If it helps I will be going back to my place in UK over Christmas, so can carry it back if needed?

Martin I appreciate the offer!

If the tool Peter mentioned is the preferred tool I'll probably take you up on your offer.

Thanks!

Brad

PeterH-350LE · 12-03-2015, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bkahler

Martin I appreciate the offer!

If the tool Peter mentioned is the preferred tool I'll probably take you up on your offer.

Thanks!

Brad

Before you go through the trouble finding it in GB, call your local Auto Glass shop and see what they say.
When I had a windshield replaced in 2002, the guy had a similar tool, I just don't recall how it looked like exactly.
Basically all you need is a "spreader" and then push the spline into position just behind it.
I would probably try to make something, before buying yet another one-time tool. But then there are tool freaks like Brad

May be Gregsch can chime in and tell us how he put it back in?

bkahler · 12-03-2015, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer

I would probably try to make something, before buying yet another one-time tool. But then there are tool freaks like Brad

And your point is...?!

bkahler · 12-03-2015, 07:34 AM

The only splines I'm familiar in working with are for Triumph sports cars and they are made from aluminum extrusions and later cars had plastic extrusions.

The extrusions are smacked into place with a rubber mallet.

martin300662 · 12-03-2015, 07:37 AM

I just made a call to my folks in the UK, and I am reliably told they are called a 'lock bead' installation tool....my Dad tried to convince me the task could be achieved with a tool made from an old wooden handle and a wire coat hanger!

PeterH-350LE · 12-03-2015, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bkahler

And your point is...?!

one would be that you would make a good neighbor...

Gregsch · 12-03-2015, 07:21 PM

Just bought a Lisle 47000 on Amazon. I will try it and report back. I peeled the spline out and put it back with a 1" putty knife. It worked but it would probably be a lot better with the right tool. Besides, I'm with Brad, The one that dies with the most tools wins.

bkahler · 12-04-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by martin300662

I just made a call to my folks in the UK, and I am reliably told they are called a 'lock bead' installation tool....my Dad tried to convince me the task could be achieved with a tool made from an old wooden handle and a wire coat hanger!

Martin, thanks for the offer. Before I buy anything let's see how the one Greg just bought works. Just based on looks the one Peter originally posted looks like it would work the best but first hand experience from Greg with the Lisle model should tell us what we need to know.

Brad

bkahler · 12-04-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregsch

Besides, I'm with Brad, The one that dies with the most tools wins.

I'd be happy to just end up in the top ten!

martin300662 · 12-04-2015, 03:02 PM

There seems very similar tools to the one Peter shared on Ebay.co.uk

Windscreen Filler Tool

I may get one of those 'sets' sent to my place in the UK (just in case!)

bkahler · 12-05-2015, 01:42 PM

Martin, do you have a home in the UK or just family?

martin300662 · 12-05-2015, 02:06 PM

Denise (DW) has an apartment from before we got married and currently her daughter stays there. Then I have a house (again from before we got married) which I previously used when working in Europe (I do quite a few long term projects where manufacturing lines are assembled/tested in Europe then shipped and re-assembled in the US, so spend an every of 25% of my time in Europe) but this year rented it out to family. So when we go back for Christmas we will spend some time at Denise's apartment but most of our time at Denise's parents which are nearby and only visit my place.

Denise's daughter is a pretty unreliable; for example I left a little Mercedes A class (what is solid as a CLA here) to run around when we were over there but decided to sell it and Emily (Denise's daughter) took it to a dealer for us. She forgot to sign over the paper work to complete the deal and I was getting traffic tickets from the new owner for around 6 months (they run up a few thousand dollars in fines and ended up in court before I could stop it). So I don't send anything to Denise's apartment or my house unless we know we are going to be there to collect it...if not we may never receive the items!