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04-22-2016, 07:27 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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Front Air bags/springs
I finally tore the old airbags from my from coils and need to replace them. What have you guys used as a replacements?
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04-22-2016, 08:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,072
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04-22-2016, 08:10 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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I found a kit on sdtrucksprings meant for the p30 chassis that were made by firestone. Ordered those. Someone at my work bought the same ones for his P30 (Winnebago I think) and said they installed easily.
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04-22-2016, 08:11 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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Thanks Mayco! Those are the ones I bought for the front, I dont have rears. Wouldnt mind installing some at some point.
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04-22-2016, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mprokop87
...Someone at my work bought the same ones for his P30 (Winnebago I think) and said they installed easily.
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Whoever your friend is at work is more than welcome to come and install mine!
I found installing them to be one of the more frustrating tasks to undertake on these rigs.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-22-2016, 01:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Airstream 250
Oxford
, Oxfordshire
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,253
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Bit of a bugger to fit. Lots of washing up liquid, soften bag first. I think I tied mine with cable ties so it didn't keep unravelling. Make sure the rubber discs are properly in position. Once you have delivered a steady stream of expletives, shredded the skin from your knuckles and spent several hours underneath her - you'll be ready for a beer!
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/firest...-p30-1963-1999
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04-22-2016, 01:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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I'm with Brad on that one. Aggravating. I found that cutting the last 8" off a broom handle made a nice tool for forcing the bladder into the hole in the bottom of the A arm. Squeeze all the air out of it before you roll it up and start trying to get it in the hole. Use plenty of lubricant.
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04-22-2016, 02:59 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 32.5' Airstream 325
Lindsay
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 479
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I dropped the lower control arms on mine and just slid the bags in much easier than fighting them.
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04-30-2016, 12:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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I don't know what you guys were talking about . It took about 90 minutes to install the whole thing, including mounting remote fill points.
I vacuumed the air from the bags
Tied them up
And slid them in
The disks were a little tricky but overall it was an easy job.
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04-30-2016, 02:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Show off.....
What did you use for a vacuum pump?
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-30-2016, 02:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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Old faithful
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04-30-2016, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Is that an AC system vacuum pump?
Since my suspension is totally apart right now I plan on stuffing the airbags inside the springs before putting the spring between the control arms.
That's the John Warden method
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-30-2016, 02:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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It does work for AC systems and I've used it to fix many friend's vehicles. I use it for changing oil on my boat too
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04-30-2016, 02:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Victor
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 408
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You better hurry on that suspension work, rally is just over a week away!
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04-30-2016, 02:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mprokop87
It does work for AC systems and I've used it to fix many friend's vehicles. I use it for changing oil on my boat too
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Great tip! I knew there would be more uses for the vacuum pump than just AC work
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-30-2016, 02:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mprokop87
You better hurry on that suspension work, rally is just over a week away!
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Ain't gonna happen this time
If there's a Get Together next year I "might" be able to drive an empty shell but that's about it.
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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04-30-2016, 02:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,072
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But you are coming to the get together.....right?
Mike
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04-30-2016, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Definitely!
I've got a bunch of parts for various people that I will be bringing along.
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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05-02-2016, 04:52 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 207
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Nice work Mike. I've got those exact bags in mine. PO had them done. Frustratingly enough they leak. Not enough to be an issue during a day of driving, but enough to have to pull out the airline and pump them up prior to leaving the campround each trip. Just one extra hassle. I've vowed to replace them with weight matched springs alone next time. Just remove them entirely from the equation.
Great install time.
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05-04-2016, 05:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1977 24' Argosy 24
North Port
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 71
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Do these air bags really help - does it ride hard or better or what? Please let me know - we are debating doing the same thing.
Elisa
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