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Old 12-20-2015, 09:22 AM   #85
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Looking great Brad.

Let's try and chat when I am back from UK and discuss options for next steps.
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Old 12-20-2015, 11:08 AM   #86
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Looking great Brad.

Let's try and chat when I am back from UK and discuss options for next steps.
Sounds good.

Enjoy your trip home
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:50 PM   #87
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Wow! My shop now has 14 square feet more of floor space available now!

I just got back from dropping off the valance at a fiberglass mold shop in Corbin Kentucky.

Now we wait
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:30 AM   #88
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Just got back from visiting the shop that's fabricating the front valance mold. I'm happy to say progress is being made!

He's been doing a lot of work to get the outside smooth and straight. The valance had a lot of waviness to it and you can see where he's applied Bondo to smooth out the top. He's been doing that to a smaller extend on the bottom as well. Any and all holes in the surface are being filled as that will make it easier for the mold to slip free.
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In order to shape the bottom properly he's add some adjustable supports that you can see in the next two pictures. He used threaded rod and some thin strips of wood to provide the proper curve. Apparently he actually steam shaped the strips of wood so it would have the proper contour.
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He's concerned that the heat generated during the fiberglass process could cause stresses in the ABS plastic so he's added a few other supports here and there to help keep it in position for when the mold is made.

The green rectangular section is one of openings where the metal support frame for the bumper sticks through the valance. Once finished pieces are produced Martin and I will have to cut those holes again. Considering how butchered the original holes were hopefully we'll do a better job of fitting.
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I asked if he was still on track for the quoted price and got an affirmative from him He said he really tries to keep to his quotes unless something unforeseen occurs and so far that hasn't happened. He thinks he's at least 2 maybe 3 weeks away from having the mold made. I know it's coming down to the wire for Martin as he's nearing the point where he will be getting his Argosy painted so hopefully the valance won't be a bottleneck for him.


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Looking good Brad.

Coincidentally Bella is on her way back to ASNE today, so I have spent the morning digging her out and cleaning her off.



Firstly they need to 'complete' some of the things they forgot to finish off during the rebuild, but also to quote for the body/paint.

They are saying finishing then body and paint will take two months and the valance is the last part of body prep...which makes it 5-6 weeks out. Can't push it back more or I will miss the motorhome get together.

If the valance is done by then Bella will have to wait until May-June time to be painted.
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Looking good Brad.

Coincidentally Bella is on her way back to ASNE today, so I have spent the morning digging her out and cleaning her off.



Firstly they need to 'complete' some of the things they forgot to finish off during the rebuild, but also to quote for the body/paint.

They are saying finishing then body and paint will take two months and the valance is the last part of body prep...which makes it 5-6 weeks out. Can't push it back more or I will miss the motorhome get together.
We definitely don't want you to miss the get together! That would just plain suck if that happened.

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If the valance NOT is done by then Bella will have to wait until May-June time to be painted.
I added a NOT in your last sentence as I think that's what you meant

I'll start heading down to Corbin on my Friday's off just to keep up with whats happening and to re-enforce the idea that sooner is better than later!

Playing the devil's advocate, are you 100% certain the valance needs to be on the coach prior to painting? I've been looking at mine and the valance does not directly tie into a painted section of the coach. The wheel well trim and then an aluminum waist band covers the seam between the two sections.

If you look at the picture below I've circled in red and orange the seams where the valance meets the coach. I actually think you'd get a better paint job with the front aluminum band removed for painting. I don't think it would be possible to scratch the paint on the body when installing the valance so from my perspective I think painting the valance as a separate piece would yield better results all the way around.
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Should you decide to go that route I would be able to bring the valance with me to the get together.
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I agree in principal Brad, and if wheel well trims were good I would 100% agree. The complication is whoever does the paint is going to need to fit/adapt the wheel trims from the donor, before doing paint and probably needs the front valance to line up the wheel trim.....every task on these beasts seems to require four other tasks to be carried out as precursors.
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Dang, that's too bad. The trick would be to find the right wheel well trim pieces.

If I remember right you said your coach had the inner trim pieces in place. The grooves in the inner pieces are what the valance slips into. Are those pieces on you coach buggered up as well? I know you said you were missing the outer pieces for sure.

You should send a PM to John (shepherd57) to see if he saved the wheel trim when he parted out his Argosy. It's a 78 so that may mean the openings are to large but it might be worth a try.
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Mold update time.

Just talked to the owner of Fiberglass Solutions and he informed me he was waxing the mold today in prep for laying the fiberglass down for the mold itself.

He mentioned that the original valance even in the frame that was built to hold it is extremely fragile. He's had to lay a whole lot of bondo down on the original valance to smooth it out for making the mold and every time he moves it the frame flexes enough that small cracks in the bondo show up somewhere. Nothing serious but it means rework each time that happens.

I think that's a pretty good indication that I won't be able to use my original valance, at least not if I want it to look good

He plans to actually start laying the fiberglass down tomorrow and he mentioned that it would likely take all weekend to get it to the point where he is satisfied with it. After that hopefully by mid week he'll be able to cut the mold into two pieces.

There's a real good chance that he'll be able to start making the first production piece by the following weekend. That is of course assuming everything goes according to plan.


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Mold update time.

Just talked to the owner of Fiberglass Solutions and he informed me he was waxing the mold today in prep for laying the fiberglass down for the mold itself.

He mentioned that the original valance even in the frame that was built to hold it is extremely fragile. He's had to lay a whole lot of bondo down on the original valance to smooth it out for making the mold and every time he moves it the frame flexes enough that small cracks in the bondo show up somewhere. Nothing serious but it means rework each time that happens.

I think that's a pretty good indication that I won't be able to use my original valance, at least not if I want it to look good

He plans to actually start laying the fiberglass down tomorrow and he mentioned that it would likely take all weekend to get it to the point where he is satisfied with it. After that hopefully by mid week he'll be able to cut the mold into two pieces.

There's a real good chance that he'll be able to start making the first production piece by the following weekend. That is of course assuming everything goes according to plan.


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Yep! I was thinking about going up there today but after talking with him I think Ill make the trip next Friday to get pictures and discuss any potential issues with him. At the moment I think the valance is the only thing in his shop so he definitely has incentive to get it done so he can get paid.

Stay tuned....
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Just got off the phone with the fiberglass shop. The last of the fiberglass was laid on the mold today. He's thinking it should be cured by tomorrow evening (dinner time) and is hoping to pull the mold off the plug Saturday morning.

Once pulled he has to cut it in half and add the lips for the seam which he says shouldn't take long at all. After that it's time to start making parts, probably early to mid next week.

I asked him to text me a couple of pictures once the mold is pulled from the plug so hopefully I'll have an update Saturday sometime with pictures
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That is just so cool Brad! What a process to watch and read.
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Yeah it's been rather interesting to say the least I think we got lucky and found a shop ran by someone who really enjoys his work. He seems to have taken a real interest in making sure this project comes out just right. We should know sometime this weekend how this is all going to turn out.

The nice thing about all this is there will now be a source for the early (74-76) Argosy front valances, with air scoops no less!!
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