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Old 06-27-2003, 07:31 PM   #57
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59,

I called and getting a crate turbo 400 is not a possibility today. The motor I did buy is a GM crate motor with the GM warranty. The cost was less than the rebuild would have been and you cannot beat the 3 year 50K warranty.

Plenty of transmssion shops that offer a nationwide warranty, so if it needs to be done I am sure I can get something I will feel comfortable with.

The shop was supposed to begin pulling the dead engine today, I will know more next week.
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:05 PM   #58
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This all sounds like alot of work and MONEY. I hope you expected some of this ifnot it all.. If not I do feel for you..
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:48 PM   #59
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Brett, I think you are some lucky dog. After all, it could have happened way out in nomansland, without the choices and prices of a metro like Dallas. Besides you did say in the beginning that Dallas was your primary goal. Rocky heard you.
Now you are going to have the coach you really wanted with a new drive train.
Awesome!
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:56 PM   #60
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59,

I called and getting a crate turbo 400 is not a possibility today. The motor I did buy is a GM crate motor with the GM warranty. The cost was less than the rebuild would have been and you cannot beat the 3 year 50K warranty.

Plenty of transmssion shops that offer a nationwide warranty, so if it needs to be done I am sure I can get something I will feel comfortable with.

The shop was supposed to begin pulling the dead engine today, I will know more next week.
Didn't know the TH400 or 475 were no longer available. The 4L80 is and so is a control modual....you wanted OD right?

Honestly a TH400 is easy to rebuild. Now here is the part that is going to irk you.......THe parts to do the average rebuild include, Clutches, Steels (they go between the clutches), seals, Reman converter, and a flush kit are..........
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Ok It would be about $150 in parts including shipping from the distributor. That's typical cost from burned clutches or blown seals for the typical cause of failure on a preelectronic control Tranny.

Now doesn't that hack you off?
Now stuff like stripped stator shaft, gauled foward drive drums and chewed up sprags will add some money to the rebuild but the rest is labor.

If you can't tell I have rebuilt my own transmissions.
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Old 06-28-2003, 08:30 AM   #61
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I would love to have OD, but I hear the OD trannys are nothing but trouble. High failure rates and such in this application. If the transmission needs a complete do over to stop eating governers then I will cross that bridge. For now the consensus is a bad bushing on the tail shaft or a gear with some rust on it. We will see what is is once he gets the engine and tranny out.
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Old 06-28-2003, 09:04 PM   #62
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well Brett I was hoping when all is as it should be, you might be coming through North Atlanta and visit so we could see this rig for ourselves before our next rally wh Classic motorhome rally which won't be at Mystic I guess....., then again you are probably taking I 10 and won't be anywhere near us...
hope it all comes together, the photo of the Argosy looked great ..
sorry for the run on sentence, but we do wish you guys luck with the project(s)
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Brett and Edie

Know it was not your plan to be an inspiration to all of us working to debug our units but you both sure are!

Good luck and the pic looked great...jem
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It's good to see you go with a GM crate/Goodwrench motor. Warranty is excellent and the product is too.

The TH400 transmission and the 4L80 are the same design with the 4L80 having OD. In other words the 4L80 is a TH400 w/OD. As stated previously a control module will be needed; total cost over $2K. Not sure the total weight of the MH might not be too much to utilize the OD feature very much.

Option B is to purchase a B&M or other reliable, nationwide warrantied TH400 for less that $1000. I'm not going to list sources as others seem to have better sources, however, the major speed catalogs list several TH400 built with towing in mind.

Unless you are comfortable with the actual rebuilding process it's going to cost more than $150 to do the job. Fact of life, not pleasant, but a fact none the less.

Hope this is of some value.
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Old 06-29-2003, 12:32 PM   #65
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I'm a big fan of the 454/4L80E combo. Pulls great in the Suburban towing horses/racecars and pulls great in the '92 Airstream 300LE @14,000 lbs. Runs in OD always unless climbing. 2000 RPM @ 65 MPH. Airstream gets 10.1 MPG. FWIW. Can't comment on heavier rigs.
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Old 07-02-2003, 04:09 PM   #66
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Update time!

The old motor and tranny are out! parts installation and accessories swap has begun. Still no word on the tranny, but we still have time.

New accessories include new waterpump, 100 AMP Alternator, and AC Compressor ( the old ones main shaft seal is leaking).

Shooting for the 10th to have it all done, we hope to make that date, or else it has to slide to the 17th.
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Old 07-02-2003, 05:01 PM   #67
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Oh dear...

Edie & Brett...
For what it's worth, good luck 2u both, an GREETINS from ENGLAND...both Mark n myself r saddened by your dose of bad luck...but I guess U still smilin through it...Yr a brave couple, a great team...an we toast our cup of tea to you both...CHEERS...
Hope U soon get sorted an home safe n sound, real soon...till then ...
Well done...Chris n Mark...
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Old 07-08-2003, 06:37 PM   #68
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Update time again!

The motor is ready to go back in with all the new accessories, I am hopeful that the reinstall will be done by noon tommrow. Then the transmission has to go back in. The govenor issue was that the gear shaft that drives the govenor had gotten rusty and the rust ate the nylon gear up. This was able to be cleaned off and the transmission should be fine. According to the "expert" on site this is a common occurance if a unit has sat for a while. Somehow the top half of the shaft gets exposed and can rust.

Once the motor is in then the cooling system goes back in and AC gets redone. We hope to pick it up either Thursday or Friday this week.
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Old 07-08-2003, 08:00 PM   #69
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Good to hear!
Take it easy on the ride home. No steady speeds for extended time. Breaking in a new engine the first 500 miles the speed should be varied some.
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I have sworn off the cruise control for the ride home. That is 1200 miles, plenty of highway, but I will be on some backroads too.
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