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Old 06-18-2003, 09:02 PM   #15
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Wednesday 7:12 p.m. et

They made it to Cheyenne without any more trouble. Brett did buy a new muffler for the gen set since the existing one was old and got crushed sometime during the transmission issue. He needed Midas to get the old one off.

Gen set will be critical for the southern part of the trip home.

On to Denver and Dallas. Rear air bags in Dallas for the trip through Louisiana.

"Rocky" always comes through in end!
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wow! quite a trip, hope the rest of it is uneventfull.
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Old 06-19-2003, 04:41 PM   #17
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Thursday 5:30pm et

"Rocky" has made it into Kansas and will be heading south towards Dallas shortly! No more issues although Brett did install a new cruise control. He is happy with the additional guages. He is trying not to pay attention to all the gas receipts he is accumulating! He has been watching the "Fuel Economy" gauge. Maybe they should have made that "Lack of Fuel Economy" guage!

They indicated that they would name thier unit AFTER the trip to Tampa once they had a better clue for the personallity of the coach! "Rocky" is my nickname for the unit!
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Old 06-20-2003, 08:18 PM   #18
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They made it to Dallas because I called they they were havin' dinner with the family there! Looks like the initial bugs were worked out. Now just a (hopefully uneventful) two day trip home to Tampa! Of course I live just off their path and I hope to see their MH this weekend!
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Woo-hoo! So glad to hear they made it. I knew that was 'the little Argosy that could'! Sounds like Brett's quite handy at fixing things up along the way as well, a critical skill to have on an adventure such as this.
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Unhappy Sad news!

The MH I call "Rocky" had problems with the transmission governor AGAIN! Once that was fixed, Rocky developed engine trouble an hour out of Dallas. Brett will be flying home to Tampa on Sunday. Edie will be staying in Dallas with family while the MH engine gets looked at.

In other news, they do have a water leak as a good portion of their fresh water ended up inside the coach. This problem did not stop them from their trip but it will need to be fixed WHEN they get to Tampa!

In Rocky I, Apollo Creed won a tough fight via split decision! Rocky wins in Rocky II, III, IV, and V. Enough of the Rocky thing......I just hope they get home soon!
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Wow, what a trip!! Any idea if it is major or something a little easier (and cheaper)? I would be looking for a name , but it would have 4 letters in it.

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At this point, it's only speculation on the engine. Edie indicated Brett wasn't sure what was wrong. I'm sure that Brett will sign on tonight and give us all the details.

Keep in mind there is no telling what the last few years of this MH's life looked like. If it sat idle for a few years, it wil take a while to work out the bugs. I imagine going across country over the mountains puts quite a strain on it. That's tough enough on a MH that's being used regularly.
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Bummer,

I feel bad for him! Feel almost like passing the collection plate around to help him with his troubles!! If not for his wife being back in Dallas I would say leave the beast on the side of the road and cut his losses! Not trying to be too negative but this is exactly the reason I have a trailer, too much to deal with on a MH.

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Whew,

Fred thanks for keeping the forum up to date!

I am still in Dallas as of this post, having trouble getting on a flight to waterlogged Fla.

Shari, We bypassed Denver on the new tollway. Nice drive, but a bit pricy. On a deadline and all that.

Chas, I tried to route thru Austin for a visti to PeterH, but could not figure out a way to make the time.

Fred relaed all of the pertinent info, but while in Dallas, I changed out the carrier bearing, as it was maknig a fair amount of noise and the vibration was setting my teeth on edge.

The waterheater was a goner as soon as we got home, I knew it had a burner leak, I just did not plan on it popping and flooding the coach.

The spare parts were not used (Yet) I carried a starter, water pump, and alternator. All of the hoses and belts were new. And I have a spare set of belts.

Once we were fixed in Idaho, and the people ther are great , thanks FrankR!, we had smooth saling for close to 1000 miles. That is if you do not count Salt Lake city, but once we were thru that I had no more stumbling, just poor economy until I got back under 3000 feet. I think the general rule is a 4% loss in power for each 1000 feet of elevation in a carburator fed engine. So at 7000 feet I had lost 28% of my available power .
The biggest issue was the engine wanting to flood out when stopping at a rest stop, or to look at some of the scenery.

Leaving Dallas Saturday AM, all is well, all temps in range, genset and roof ac running. We were 45 miles from our jumping off point and the govenor in the transmission failed again This time it failed while the cruise control was engaged and I do not know what the engine rpms were when I shut the cruise down. Even then it only revved the engine for a second or two.

I limped off the interstate and there was a minor ticking sound coming from the engine, I assumed it was a diffrent kind of govenor failure and found a parts store. They did not have one, but there was a boneyard a couple of miles down the road. I babied it (max 20 MPH in first gear) there, I had driven it for close to 20 miles in Idaho just like this, to the boneward. The ticking noise is a bit loder now, but again I assumed it was the govenor. I was able to get an new/used one and installed it at the boneyard. Note to self, do not do this again on a hot driveline.

Driving off I now have all three gears again, but the ticking is getting louder. At this point I knew it was a engine issue and shut it down.

The mechanics will look at it tommrow, but I thought that if you have thrown a rod, you lose most of your oil pressure Mine stayed right were it normally was. Also I am looking for a bit of advice on why the transmission is eating govenors. I can get them cheaply enough but I think I should get more than 1K out of one.
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When you say tick I think valve train. That goes along with over revving. Bent pushrod, broken valve spring or collapsed lifter. If it is a rod you should be able to hear it louder from beneath and it will be a knock and twice as fast as a lifter because the cam runs at half engine speed. Valve train will be louder from above with the doghouse cover up. Valve train also won't affect oil pressure unless you blow the lifter out of the bore.

What happens to the governor when it goes?

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Exactly what I was thinking, John,

It could also be something worse like a bent valve due to the valves floating. Not as bad as a spun or broken rod but not exactly an easy fix. I am hoping it is just a collapsed lifter that will eventually pump back up.

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John,

When the govenor fails it is due to the nylon end gear bing chewed down to the point that it no longer engages the worm gear in the transmission.

The new ones slide right in, I will try to get a picture of the last one I took out.

Thanks for the advice, I was hoping it was valve train. I figured iI was in for a head, or valve job at the worse. I will await the mechanic's assessment.
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Thanks to everyone for your support and encouragement. All in all, I am still thrilled with the coach. What do we expect after the poor thing sat un-used for at least 2 years? And it had it's major collapse close to my sisters and their kids so that I have a place to stay That's a good thing. Oh yeah, and there's the antique auction every Thursday night here.

I just got off the phone with the mechanic. He said, "We haven't taken the engine apart, but you need a new motor. I recommend a Jasper rebuilt motor that comes with an 18-month 75,000 mile nationwide warranty. Parts and labor, including $300 for extra incidentals, will be about $7,000. It will take about three weeks, since we have two more in ahead of you."
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