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Old 05-05-2017, 11:36 AM   #1
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77 argosy radiator, same as p30?

One more question. Anyone know if the radiator is the same as a p30 with 454? I was going to pull it to get it repaired/rodded but if it is the same as a p30 an aluminum one might be cheaper.
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There are two different radiators fitted. Vertical or horizontal. Up until around 81 or so they had the vertical radiator which is no longer available anywhere. After 82 or so they went to the horizontal radiator.

Your best bet for updating your radiator is to take it to a good old fashioned radiator shop and have them replace the core. I had one done for Peanut last year and after it was all said and done it was around $600. I personally don't believe any aluminum radiator would come close to being as good as the original copper style. The new replacement cores also have more cooling fins and an additional row.

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Old 05-09-2017, 10:43 AM   #3
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hoses

Are the radiator hoses p30? I found my leak, it was the heater hose. I know those are standard but the actual radiator hoses are hard as rocks so I'm not sure they will make the trip home(15 miles).
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The radiator hoses are unique to the vertical radiator models, worse yet is they have been discontinued.

Fortunately there are options available.

This is the only lower radiator hose that I've found or heard of that works. Just installed one a few months ago on my Argosy.

This is one option for the upper radiator hose . I don't like it as it didn't fit well on my 74 Argosy but it seems to have fit fine on Peanut which is a 77 Argosy.

However I like this option better for the upper hose. I found a reference to it online so I ordered and did a test fit and it seems to fit fine. Only caveat to using it is about 3 or 4 inches have to be cut off one end. Also I have not tested as to whether it works but I do know it fits on my engine just fine. I wasn't planning on posting this info until after I had at least ran the engine for a while so use at your own risk.

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The hoses that are on there dont look right. I figured I could buy some stainless 90s and 45's to make it better.

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/197...ator_hose.html

These say motorhome on them.
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Thanks for the help!

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The radiator hoses are unique to the vertical radiator models, worse yet is they have been discontinued.

Fortunately there are options available.

This is the only lower radiator hose that I've found or heard of that works. Just installed one a few months ago on my Argosy.

This is one option for the upper radiator hose . I don't like it as it didn't fit well on my 74 Argosy but it seems to have fit fine on Peanut which is a 77 Argosy.

However I like this option better for the upper hose. I found a reference to it online so I ordered and did a test fit and it seems to fit fine. Only caveat to using it is about 3 or 4 inches have to be cut off one end. Also I have not tested as to whether it works but I do know it fits on my engine just fine. I wasn't planning on posting this info until after I had at least ran the engine for a while so use at your own risk.

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Also I don't think I need one but this looks like the correct radiator. Even has the opening on the other side for the filler neck. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-GMC-Mo...JX~iOr&vxp=mtr

I only post it because lots of threads said these were not available.
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Also I don't think I need one but this looks like the correct radiator. Even has the opening on the other side for the filler neck. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-GMC-Mo...JX~iOr&vxp=mtr

I only post it because lots of threads said these were not available.
That's the horizontal radiator and I don't believe it will work as a replacement for the vertical style.
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Looks like the vertical one I have. It has the neck on the other side
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Looks like the vertical one I have. It has the neck on the other side
The other two ports are in the wrong corners.
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That is true. I emailed them and he said it is the vertical radiator and asked me to take a picture of mine and send it to him.
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That is true. I emailed them and he said it is the vertical radiator and asked me to take a picture of mine and send it to him.
Makes you wonder if they just got fabricated incorrectly.

While you're at it ask him what size the openings are. The front filler tube is 1-1/4" but I can't remember what the suction and discharge sizes are off the top of my head.
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Mine isn't out, anyone happen to have a picture of it out?
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Cool deal, I sent a picture his way.
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Happen to have the core measurements? Height and width?
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The core is from Heatx Radiator, part # JCT-1333 and measures 28-1/4" x 19-1/4" x 2-1/2".


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Thank you! I sent that in as well. You seem to be pretty well versed. I'm going to pull the transmission soon to replace the flywheel(has some very bad spots) and I opened the hood and noticed the subfloor angle is right behind the bellhousing part of the transmission. Does it drop down enough when you lower the transmission crossmember to clear? I'm taking the day off work tomorrow to handle some things and I'm going to bring the transmission jack and parts over to try and knock it out.
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Thank you! I sent that in as well. You seem to be pretty well versed.
I just went through the same thing with Peanut last summer.

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I'm going to pull the transmission soon to replace the flywheel(has some very bad spots) and I opened the hood and noticed the subfloor angle is right behind the bellhousing part of the transmission. Does it drop down enough when you lower the transmission crossmember to clear? I'm taking the day off work tomorrow to handle some things and I'm going to bring the transmission jack and parts over to try and knock it out.
You will likely have a difficult time unbolting the transmission cross member. The bolts come through from the top of the chassis and the fact that Airstream built the floor on top of the frame leaves little clearance for bolt extraction from above. On mine I had to torch the bolts. Fortunately for you there is one difference from my Argosy and yours. On mine Airstream only left 1/2" between floor and truck chassis. Yours should have about 1" clearance. You might be able to push the bolts up high enough to slide the mount rearwards.
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Well I drained the transmission today, removed the cross member, disconnected the driveshaft, and a few other odds and ends but I still need to remove a little sensor wire on the side(couldn't figure out how it came out...it was leaking fluid too, and I need to disconnect the drum brake cable. Hopefully by this weekend it will be going back together. On the plus side the transmission fluid was super clean and smelled new. Hopefully a sign of good maintenance and not a severe leak.
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