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07-28-2019, 06:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
If I'm mistaken, there's a difference between a non safety bead tire, like the 19.5" and 16.5" tires and safety bead tires like the 16" you're mucking around with. The bead walls are considerably thicker and tougher to get past the rim than a non safety rim and tire.
I'd get a proper shop to mount and balance the 16's.
Cheers
Sidekick Tony
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Morning Tony, sounds like your western trip is going very well!
I've not had the pleasure of breaking the bead on a non-safety bead tire. What was interesting is the two 16" regular treaded tires were fairly easy to break the bead on. The four mud and snow tires refused to give.
I've decided that new tires will purchased and mounted at the local shop, my tire fixin days are behind me!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
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08-12-2019, 07:56 AM
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#1642
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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I managed to spend a little bit of time working on the Argosy this weekend. On Saturday I painted the wheel well covers and generator cover to keep them from rusting. I used a paint called Miracle paint which is similar to POR-15.
On Sunday I removed the two overhead storage bins and the center ceiling panel. In a couple of weeks I hope to also remove the rest of the interior panels. The overhead storage on the passenger side will likely be re-installed in the final remodel. The overhead storage on the drivers side will be eliminated or at most just a small section installed above the soon to be added sliding window in the back corner.
The near term goal is to remove all of the inner skin, insulation and wiring and then seal any and all leaks. After than I'll start rewiring the interior and then insulate. Time permitting I hope to have that work done by this fall.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-12-2019, 08:43 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
I managed to spend a little bit of time working on the Argosy this weekend. On Saturday I painted the wheel well covers and generator cover to keep them from rusting. I used a paint called Miracle paint which is similar to POR-15.
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On Sunday I removed the two overhead storage bins and the center ceiling panel. In a couple of weeks I hope to also remove the rest of the interior panels. The overhead storage on the passenger side will likely be re-installed in the final remodel. The overhead storage on the drivers side will be eliminated or at most just a small section installed above the soon to be added sliding window in the back corner.
Attachment 349206Attachment 349207
The near term goal is to remove all of the inner skin, insulation and wiring and then seal any and all leaks. After than I'll start rewiring the interior and then insulate. Time permitting I hope to have that work done by this fall.
Brad
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How comes these little 20s look like they have loads of space when they are 'empty' yet still struggle to get everything inside!
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08-12-2019, 09:49 AM
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#1644
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
How comes these little 20s look like they have loads of space when they are 'empty' yet still struggle to get everything inside!
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It does seem spacious right now doesn't it
Too bad it won't stay that way
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-12-2019, 06:42 PM
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#1645
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
How comes these little 20s look like they have loads of space when they are 'empty' yet still struggle to get everything inside!
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I sense Martin's getting a bad case of two footitis.[emoji846]
Cheers
Sidekick Tony
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08-13-2019, 08:57 AM
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#1646
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
I sense Martin's getting a bad case of two footitis.[emoji846]
Cheers
Sidekick Tony
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That's probably true of just about anyone that ones an Argosy or a Classic....."just two more feet and I would have room for my.....!"
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-19-2019, 01:07 PM
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STstudios
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Wixom
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 68
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Hey Brad - I lost your number. Trying to reach you. Can you give me a call. Thanks! Sam (305)502-1354
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08-20-2019, 09:23 AM
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#1648
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STstudios
Hey Brad - I lost your number. Trying to reach you. Can you give me a call. Thanks! Sam (305)502-1354
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Sam,
I've been on a trip. Will call shortly.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-29-2019, 05:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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I finally removed the bulk of the interior walls. I still have the end caps to remove.
I hate working with fiberglass insulation so I bought a full face respirator. It made a huge difference while removing the insulation. Without the respirator you could really smell the mouse urine and various other aromatic odors
I hope to remove the end caps this weekend and then brush the walls down to get rid of any left over insulation. After that it's time to wait for a rain store to find all of the leaks.....
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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08-29-2019, 06:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
I finally removed the bulk of the interior walls. I still have the end caps to remove.
Attachment 350758Attachment 350759Attachment 350760
I hate working with fiberglass insulation so I bought a full face respirator. It made a huge difference while removing the insulation. Without the respirator you could really smell the mouse urine and various other aromatic odors
I hope to remove the end caps this weekend and then brush the walls down to get rid of any left over insulation. After that it's time to wait for a rain store to find all of the leaks.....
Brad
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Hi Brad,
I'm definitely following you that you have been doing!
I'm going to remove all of the interior walls in the near future.
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08-29-2019, 07:50 AM
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#1651
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GREEN ARGOSY
Hi Brad,
I'm definitely following you that you have been doing!
I'm going to remove all of the interior walls in the near future.
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Yuki,
You seem to be moving at a faster pace than I am, I've been at it for years and you've almost caught up to me already!
Here's a tip for you. When removing the ceiling panels, remove the two long aluminum strips that hold the center panel in place. To do so you will need to remove the center panel first and then the two long strips. After that you can remove the rest of the panels. I would also suggest wearing a full face respirator while removing the interior panels and insulation. Better to be safe than sorry.
Brad
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08-29-2019, 05:35 PM
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#1652
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Rear cap is down now.
Oddly enough I found two drain tubes inside the walls for AC drains. Even odder both tubes were about 2 feet short of reaching where they needed to be to actually work as a drain tube for an air conditioner
I also found two runs of 12/2 Romex cable in the walls, one for each ceiling opening.
With luck by Saturday I should have the front cap down and all the insulation removed and bagged for disposal.
Brad
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08-29-2019, 07:24 PM
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#1653
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Yuki,
You seem to be moving at a faster pace than I am, I've been at it for years and you've almost caught up to me already!
Here's a tip for you. When removing the ceiling panels, remove the two long aluminum strips that hold the center panel in place. To do so you will need to remove the center panel first and then the two long strips. After that you can remove the rest of the panels. I would also suggest wearing a full face respirator while removing the interior panels and insulation. Better to be safe than sorry.
Brad
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Brad,
Thank you for good advice, my teacher.
That tip would help me a lot!
Yes, I'm keeping "safety first" in mind.
I need to wear a respirator or a dust mask when play with the insulation.
Anyway, I don't like glass fiber insulation..
I'm going to use urethane foam spray instead of that.
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08-30-2019, 05:40 AM
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#1654
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3 Rivet Member
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2024 Atlas
Jeffersonville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 173
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Man Brad, I’m thoroughly enjoying yours and Yuki’s threads. Can’t wait until I can get some spare time to start on mine. Work has had me too busy. I hate starting on something without planning. [emoji30]
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08-31-2019, 06:21 AM
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#1655
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GREEN ARGOSY
Brad,
Thank you for good advice, my teacher.
That tip would help me a lot!
Yes, I'm keeping "safety first" in mind.
I need to wear a respirator or a dust mask when play with the insulation.
Anyway, I don't like glass fiber insulation..
I'm going to use urethane foam spray instead of that.
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Yuki,
When you start removing the interior panels you might find that the wiring will start to fall down. As you remove each panel starting from the top down it would be a good idea to use something like duct tape to ensure the wiring stays in place.
Also, you might want to do some searching on Airforums about the use of urethane foam spray for insulation. There are draw backs to it's use.
Brad
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08-31-2019, 06:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chevy2man
Man Brad, I’m thoroughly enjoying yours and Yuki’s threads. Can’t wait until I can get some spare time to start on mine. Work has had me too busy. I hate starting on something without planning. [emoji30]
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It seems like my whole Argosy project is the result of a complete lack of planning!
Heck, way back in December of 2012 in post #4 of this thread I made the following statement:
"At the rate I'm getting things done on the Argosy it will probably be 2020 before I'm done with it."
At the time I thought that was absurd, there was no way it would take that long. As it turns out 2020 is likely to be when I "substantially" complete things
Oh well, it's been a fun ride
Brad
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08-31-2019, 06:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Moved the rear end cap outside and pulled down all of the wiring. Still need to remove the front end cap and then it's time for the fun task of scrubbing the walls to remove the remnants of the fiberglass insulation. I'm not really looking forward to that task
Here's an inside view of a patch I made years ago when I removed the old TV antenna. As near as I can tell it doesn't leak. The discoloration on the patch was there when I installed it. Fortunately I'll be able to verify that it doesn't leak once we get a few rains later next week.
If you're wondering how Airstream runs the plumbing inside the walls here's a picture for you. It would appear they use a torch to heat the plastic enough to follow the curves of the walls. Not the most elegant solution but it seems to work.
Brad
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08-31-2019, 10:29 AM
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#1658
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Front cap is now down and out and now it's time for the cleanup.
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08-31-2019, 12:32 PM
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#1659
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
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Looks like a nasty task ahead Brad. Gotta be done tho
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08-31-2019, 01:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mayco
Looks like a nasty task ahead Brad. Gotta be done tho
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Definitely nasty!
If you're bored next weekend maybe you'd like to take a trip southeast......
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