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Old 03-10-2013, 06:07 PM   #99
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You are definitely making progress! I like that you reused the scrap rib. wood never seemed right in an all aluminum construction. If you decide you need to practice your interior design and construction skills come on down..... Actually forget that, that is the only thing I am good at, What I need is some mechanical ability!
Dave, if I had to do it over again I would probably use flat aluminum channel instead of the curved sections. I've got the A/C mounted now and the curve really made it difficult to get the gasket to seal properly. I may at some point remove the curved section and replace with flat. We'll see

I'm nothing more than a shade tree mechanic. I know just enough to be dangerous

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Old 03-10-2013, 07:52 PM   #100
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More progress yesterday and today but not as much as I would have liked. My plan was to lift the roof top A/C using the backhoe Saturday morning and mount the Jack antenna in the afternoon and then move inside to remove the aluminum dash top plate.

If the backhoe had cooperated I might have met my goals or Saturday, but the backhoe didn't want to start so I spent several hours swapping batteries with no change and finally bleeding all of the injectors before I could get it to fire.

I finally got it running around 10:30 and managed to get the A/C up on top of the Argosy. Getting it up on the roof was almost anticlimactic once I got the backhoe running.

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After that I started in on the Jack antenna installation. My previous thought that the antenna base would cover the old antenna mounting holes was wrong. I hadn't noticed that the old antenna was mounted right above the inside ceiling light. Since the Jack antenna has an inside control plate that meant I had to move the antenna forward about 6" which now meant that I had to install a patch plate to cover the three existing holes.

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I then moved inside the coach to install the ceiling panel kit for the A/C. I'm not at all pleased on how the panel fits to the ceiling and the amount of clamping action it took to compress the gasket on the curved roof. If I had to do it over again I'd use flat aluminum channel instead of the curved roof ribs from the 345. Maybe I'll change that before it's all said and done. Anyway I'm going to do some tweaking to the ceiling panel to see if I can't get it to fit better.

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Then it was time to fit the inside panel for the Jack antenna. When I drilled the hole for the antenna I lined it up with the pre existing marks that Airstream provided when the mounted the ceiling light. Well that didn't work out so well. Turns out their marks were right on the money, unfortunately they didn't mount the light using those marks! I'm going to have to recenter the light properly to make things look right.

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Next up was finishing the removal of the dash aluminum cover plate. Fortunately it came off relatively easily, one of the few things that went smoothly this weekend.

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This week I'll see about removing the air plenum so I can fix the vacuum actuators on the plenum.

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Old 03-12-2013, 07:28 PM   #101
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Since it's getting close to mud dauber season I figure I need to get the cab sealed up. Right now there are big gaps between the walls and the floor in the cockpit and I can't get the wall panels back in place until this is task is done.

Once that task is done I'm sure I'll find something else to do that needs to be done

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:32 PM   #102
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A while back I think I posted a picture of the license plate mess that was on the back of my Argosy. Well I finally took the time today to remove it so I could see what was underneath. It was pretty obvious that the license plate light mess that I removed was not the original setup. You can see where the original style of light was fastened in place.

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While I was at it I put a patch over the hole that used to house a shore power socket. I've since upgraded to a 50 amp service that I detailed previously. This was the first time I had a chance to use Cleco's and I'm impressed how easy they are to use and how well they hold the metal in place.

I also filled all the excess holes with Olympic rivets and have ordered a replacement light assembly that should have been there in the first place.

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Old 03-16-2013, 04:48 AM   #103
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Making good progress, Brad, its fun to watch from my comfortable chair .
Are you going to have a pimp my Argosy contest as Fred did, when the time comes to paint it and do you plan on painting it yourself?
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:51 PM   #104
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Peter, I don't think for as long as I live I will ever reach a point where I can sit back in a comfortable chair

Today I started back on trying to get the dash A/C components out. I happy to say I was successful in that endeavor

I decided to create a new thread detailing the dash A/C rebuild: 1974 Argosy MH dash ac rebuild

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Old 03-16-2013, 05:30 PM   #105
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Last year on November 23rd I wrote the following:

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The long term goal is to do the following:

1) Remove the interior so I can remove the wood floor to repair the bad spots.
2) Make new cabinets
3) Replace all appliances (stove, fridge, water heater, furnace, microwave)
4) Install the new motor that is currently sitting on an engine stand
5) Replace the Generac generator with an Onan 6.5 and mount it on drawer slides
6) Add larger more modern outside mirrors
7) Install a new Inteli-power Converter PD9245
8) New electric steps
9) Replace the TH400 transmission with a nice 4L80E
10) Replace the exterior door (mostly complete)
11) Make a more modern looking instrument cluster for the dash
12) All new upholstery
13) All new brakes
14) All new suspension & steering components
15) Zipdee awning
16) And lots more

Well, too date I've only accomplished two of them. The new mirrors and the electric steps are done. Everything else (plus more) is still a work in progress.

Peter, THAT is why I don't think I will ever have time for a comfortable chair

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Old 03-17-2013, 06:59 AM   #106
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Darn, Brad, I just looked at your list and hate to be the one to inform you that you will not finish the 20' until Sept 17th 2014 at 9:42 pm
But on the other hand, don't be like I am and sell your Motorhome, when you think you accomplished what you set out to do, because the reward for accomplishing a difficult task is usually a more difficult task (says the man, whilst sitting his comfortable chair waiting for 3 Axles to show up...)
Let's face it, for some of us the fun is the road and not the destination.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:35 AM   #107
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Peter, once I get done with this thing no one will want to pay what I would have to ask for it for me to just break even

Like the saying goes, the purchase price is just the down payment. In this case it wasn't even the taxes on the down payment

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But so much fun. I'm having a blast. Thanks Brad for posting so much info. I've found a couple of tricks that I need to post.
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But so much fun. I'm having a blast. Thanks Brad for posting so much info. I've found a couple of tricks that I need to post.
The more tricks better. It's always helpful knowing that someone has already done something that I'm getting ready to do. Knowing that it can be done is half the battle. The other half is getting the money to do it with

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I've started digging into the dash wiring the last few days and boy is it a rats nest. The original GM harness is in good condition and usable but the Airstream installed wiring is just a mess. I have no idea how much of the mess Airstream created and how much is due to previous owners but I've pretty much made the decision to remove most of the add-on wiring and start over. I like neatness in wiring and there's no way I'm going to put the dash back together with wiring like this.

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So with that in mind I've started mapping out all of the wiring so I know how things are wired and just where everything goes. My first task was to start mapping out the dash A/C wiring. I plan on making at least a couple of changes to the dash A/C system. One change will be to have the A/C turn on when the defroster position is selected and another change will be to use relays to control the blower fan. I may also just add a switch that enables the air compressor clutch so I can run A/C in any mode, similar to how a lot of new cars operate. Right now the power for low and medium speeds of the fan are ran directly through the small fan speed control switch. Since these switches are likely to be impossible to find I'm going to use the switch to turn relays on and off. This will keep the current passing through the control switch to a minimum which will hopefully allow the switch to last forever.

Oddly enough the power for the high speed winding of the blower fan passed through a starter style solenoid. Apparently Airstream realized the high speed current draw was to high for the switch to handle.

Attached is a sketch of the A/C wiring as found.

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Old 03-21-2013, 06:12 AM   #111
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Well I feel better now, I just finished pulling all of the non-GM wiring out of the dash

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As I removed each wire I verified where it was from and where it was going. I couldn't believe just how bad the non-GM wiring really was. There was some obvious Airstream added wiring and some even more obvious previous owner installed wiring. Hopefully when I get done re-wiring things the next owner of this rig won't have to say DPO about me

There was nothing mysterious about any of it and since I'm replacing most of the components (cruise, brake control, steering column, etc) with new I didn't bother making a sketch of the existing wiring.

Next up is to seal off the cockpit side walls so I can start re-installing parts of the dash assembly.

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Absolutely amazing! You have definately got to come to Moho's in May!
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