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Old 01-07-2016, 09:01 AM   #449
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No Brad other than the shop reporting 'there was nothing to bolt it to (which could mean either the arm or the hole). I'am not going to order new ones until I pick Bella up and look for myself.
Makes sense!

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The first task I have after picking Bella up is taking the box of worn out parts back to Airstream NE and see if the can explain how they are supposed to have made sure everything was roadworthy and serviced yet the new shop has had to change most of the braking system etc because it had failed.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that meeting

It does make you wonder what if anything else they might have missed.
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Old 01-09-2016, 06:33 AM   #450
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Another modification I am making is for the front bumper mounts. The old style of mount used a piece of channel that fit inside the bumper and then the bumper bolted to the channel on the top and bottom with four bolts. The 2" square tube support had large ears on the end that made it extremely difficult to get the front valance on and off. I trimmed the ears off of the tubes but it was still difficult because the tubes were still sticking through the front of the valance.

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What I'm going to do to solve that problem is to shorten the 2" tubing about 1" which will keep the tube from sticking through the front of the valance. I've already fabricated L braces that will bolt to the 2" tubing. The bumper will then bolt to the short leg of the L.
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This means the hole in the front of the valance can be smaller and the L bracket can be removed if or when the front valance needs to be removed or installed.

I'm going to recommend when the front valance mold is made that the holes in the front are left out during mold making process. The necessary openings can easily be cut as required when the valance is fitted to the coach.
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Sounds a good idea Brad.

I still have the 'bunny ears' although it looks like the support bars have been removed/repaired/rebraced in the past so may not be exactly in original position. Simply maintaining the indent but not cutting out will allow the actual hole to be cut as needed.
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Old 01-09-2016, 05:18 PM   #452
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Front supports have been trimmed and the L bracket has been tweaked to match the slight angle of the bumper. All that's left is to bolt the L brackets to the supports and the holes through the front of the bumper to the L bracket.
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One thing about having the engine and transmission removed, you can get some pictures from some pretty unique angles!

I plan on holding off drilling the holes through the front of the bumper until the valance is refitted because the bumper may need to pivot up or down slightly to match the valance.

It was a busy day today. Along with working on the front bumper I worked at finishing up the doghouse frame inside the cab. I've got one piece of 1"x1" tubing to weld in place on the firewall and that will wrap up the structural part of the doghouse.

It's tiring climbing in and out of the engine compartment from the doghouse. I must have climbed in and out 50 times today!


I'll get pictures of the doghouse when I'm done with the structural work.

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Old 01-10-2016, 12:13 PM   #453
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Martin,

I was looking through the 74 Argosy owners manual and found this tidbit. Apparently the 24' 74 Argosies had battery trays.
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I measured the opening where the battery tray in the picture above is located and it's 8-3/4". I think most batteries are roughly 7-1/2" high so it's a close fit for those batteries.

What size gray water tank(s) did you put in your's?


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Old 01-11-2016, 07:16 AM   #454
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Spent some time yesterday trying to figure how to fabricate the framework for the storage compartment. Based on Martin's description of how his compartment was modified to accommodate the batteries, etc this is what I've come up with so far.

This is a cross section view of the frame work. The 1x2 tubing at the top is the floor frame of the Argosy. In theory this will give me about 11-1/2" from the compartment floor to the top of the opening. More than enough for the installation of a battery tray.
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This just shows the tubing arrangement for the compartment floor. The floor itself will likely be 16 gauge steel sheet.
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I haven't quite worked out the details for how the back of the compartment will be attached to the floor above but I do have some ideas. I'm also considering not using the original gray water tank due to it's size and shape. I started looking for alternatives over the weekend and have found a few that might work.


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Old 01-11-2016, 09:21 AM   #455
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Steve, you might find this picture interesting.
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This should give you a good idea as to how much clearance there is between the top of the air filter housing to the doghouse cover. The engine in the picture is a 350 but I think the carburetor deck height is the same between the 350 and the 454. Also this is the earliest style of doghouse so I don't know if the newer styles provide more or less clearance.

The round cylinder in the center of the cover is for some sort of table post. I think Airstream might have had an accessory table that sat on top of the doghouse so the driver and passenger would have a table.

To give you another idea of the clearance, the one in the picture is a standard air filter housing. The 345 I dismantled came with an extra tall air filter housing. The housing was about 1" to 1-1/2" taller than stock and it fit under the newer style of doghouse cover.


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What size gray water tank(s) did you put in your's?
I will check when I go pick Bella up Brad....I was supposed to go Saturday but didn't feel great and it wasn't safe to drive!
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I will check when I go pick Bella up Brad....I was supposed to go Saturday but didn't feel great and it wasn't safe to drive!
Bella wasn't safe to drive or you weren't safe to drive?!

When do you head overseas again?
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Definitely me Brad; I could stand without loosing balance - and no alcohol was involved!

Actually I have no more oversees travel planned until April, but then very little of my travel is actually booked more than 2-3 days in advance so it hardly counts as being 'planned'.
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Definitely me Brad; I could stand without loosing balance - and no alcohol was involved!
I went through something similar back in 2010 after a roll over car accident in Massachusetts. A visit to the hearing specialist and $50 later I walked out of her office cured!

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Actually I have no more oversees travel planned until April, but then very little of my travel is actually booked more than 2-3 days in advance so it hardly counts as being 'planned'.
So the odds are you'll be on the road again in the near future
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I spent an hour or so last night trying to figure out the best place to locate the ECM for TBI system so I needed to do some mock up work in the cockpit. Where the cardboard is in the picture there will be a cover/hatch for access to the wiring just above the doghouse. This is the same area on the Argosies and Classics where the glove box is located. I plan on using the glove box door with the inner cup holder section removed which in effect just makes it a door. There is plenty of room in this area for the ECM and other associated relays, etc.
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And for the heck of it I also temporarily installed the evaporator/heater box cover and side panel. I had forgotten how much the side panel protrudes into the cockpit, about 4" or so. The few times I sat in the passenger seat I don't remember the 4" being an issue and if I remember right the Classics have a side panel that protrudes about the same amount so I guess I shouldn't be to surprised!
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I did notice the fit of the original side panel was horrible. I'll do a better job of getting the panels to fit if for no other reason that I know it's done right

It was actually kinda nice to be putting stuff back where it belongs, even if it does have to be removed again!


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Great progress but I'm not sure you will be ready for the motorhome get together Brad!
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Well I could always load it on my 18' flatbed trailer and haul it up to the get together

The way it sits right now it probably only weighs about 3,500 lbs., an aluminum shell and chassis can't weight all that much.
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