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Old 12-21-2015, 07:22 PM   #407
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By the way, your link takes me to your craigslist ad for the 31' trailer
now thats hilarious, you know, nowadays you just have to use all the marketing tricks in the world. You will be wondering why you want that 31" trailer when you wake up.
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Old 12-21-2015, 07:31 PM   #408
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Nice try but I ain't buying your your excuse...at least not this time
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:36 PM   #409
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I spent most of the day underneath the Argosy ripping things out. The transmission is now sitting on the floor, the two compartment doors on the drivers side have been removed, the black water tank has been pulled and is now sitting in the barn.

I removed more of the propane copper piping. Not sure what Airstream was thinking but there were three 3/8" lines running from the passenger side over to the drivers side with no protection at all

I also started removing most of the wiring and hoses that run along both frame rails. The plan is to give the frame rails a stiff wire brushing and then paint.

I plan on converting the black water tank space into a battery drawer similar to those used on the Classics. Plenty of space for a drawer with the tank removed
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The transmission had been hanging in place since I removed the engine back in 2008. The PO indicated that he had rebuilt the transmission prior to my taking possession of the coach and not that I don't believe him but it's now been sitting unused with no fluids since 2007 so I'm going to pull the pan and take a peek to see what it looks like inside. If it looks new I'll put the new oil pan on and use as is. If it looks "funny" inside I'll take it to a shop for evaluation.

One of the more annoying things I found about how Airstream constructed this coach is there is no room to get the bolts out from the top part of the transmission cross member. The floor sits on 3/8" spacers above the frame which is not enough room to push the bolts out so the cross member can be removed
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What I will probably do is grind the rivets off of the center section of the transmission mount which will allow the center section of the mount to be unbolted allowing room for the transmission to drop straight down during removal and installation.
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One of these days I'm going to be able to say I'm done tearing things out and actually putting things back in place, but not quite yet


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Old 12-27-2015, 04:39 PM   #410
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Brad, let me know if this helps. Looks like a very simple mounting method
I didn't take any measurements, figured you had the drawer to take them.
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Old 12-27-2015, 04:49 PM   #411
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One of the more annoying things I found about how Airstream constructed this coach is there is no room to get the bolts out from the top part of the transmission cross member. The floor sits on 3/8" spacers above the frame which is not enough room to push the bolts out so the cross member can be removed
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What I will probably do is grind the rivets off of the center section of the transmission mount which will allow the center section of the mount to be unbolted allowing room for the transmission to drop straight down during removal and installation.
That was 1 of the reasons that I decided not to drop the crossmember when I installed the new Pan. There is an inch or so space above the frame in the 310, just enough to be real annoying to remove.
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Brad, let me know if this helps. Looks like a very simple mounting method
I didn't take any measurements, figured you had the drawer to take them.
Wow, didn't take you anytime get those pics! Maybe I shoild have asked for something more challenging

Actually I don't have a drawer. The 345 drawers went to Wisconsin and I forgot to take measurements of the 310 drawers before it moved to greener pastures. Dumb move on my part

Thanks!
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Old 12-27-2015, 05:12 PM   #413
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Wow, didn't take you anytime get those pics! Maybe I shoild have asked for something more challenging

Actually I don't have a drawer. The 345 drawers went to Wisconsin and I forgot to take measurements of the 310 drawers before it moved to greener pastures. Dumb move on my part

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No problem, I just got it done in time for some 1/2" hail to move through. Luckily both my Airstreams are under cover. Do you need measurements?
Would have to wait until tomorrow eve.
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That was 1 of the reasons that I decided not to drop the crossmember when I installed the new Pan. There is an inch or so space above the frame in the 310, just enough to be real annoying to remove.
Apparently Airstream didn't feel it would ever be necessay to remove the transmission....easily that is

Hopefully removing a total of 6 rivets will solve that problem.
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No problem, I just got it done in time for some 1/2" hail to move through. Luckily both my Airstreams are under cover. Do you need measurements?
Would have to wait until tomorrow eve.
Measurements would be great but no hurry at all. I won't be working on the drawer install for a while yet. I've got more stuff to remove including the gray water tank. The metal shell around the tank is rotting away and I want to fab a new one.

Lots of stuff to rebuild on this poor old Argosy.
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When I get back I can get pictures of the tray on Bella, Brad.

To get enough height for two batteries and the tray, the floor of the compartment on the drivers side had to be dropped by nearly 3" - the original compartment height was not enough. This also allowed the new Manchester propane tank to sit next to it. Of course this meant the compartment door (which pivots from the bottom) would not fit and the guys came up with a clever double pivot hinge system to allow the standard compartment doors be used.
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Martin, pictures would be great! It would be nice to have options for a battery compartment/tray.

Which ever choice I make it's going to be a fair amount of work.

I've been meaning to ask, what kind of parking brake arrangement do you have in your coach? Mine uses a small pedal to set the brake and a T-handle just above it to release. Similar to pickups of the era. However the parts manuals all seem to indicate I should have a hand lever that sets and releases the parking brake. This is about the only thing that I have that seems to be at odds with the parts manuals.

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I have the same as you Brad, small pedal to set/handle to release.
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Brad,
Curved drawer front: 34 1/4" wide
Drawer 27 1/8" wide and 27" deep at the top, less at the bottom due to the curve
depth of drawer 8 3/4"
Hope this helps you decide what to do
sorry these pictures are fuzzy, but they show where i took the measurements
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I have the same as you Brad, small pedal to set/handle to release.
Makes me wonder if these early Argosy motorhomes were actually built on the G30 series chassis instead of P30. Thanks for the info!

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