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Old 12-19-2015, 02:25 PM   #393
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I really struggled with designing my head unit/stereo install. I had it in a temporary Jensen single din plastic Marine grade device for awhile just so we had some tunes on the road. There are soooo dog gone many choices these days and so many gadgets to choose from. I finally decided to do something real simple but true to the 80's vintage. I tried to kind of mimic an old Kenwood receiver I once owned and loved from that time period, something like this
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So I just kept it simple and made a small cabinet from walnut and plywood laminated with aluminum. Angled the face in the cabinet for easier vision and used an Alpine head unit. Its on rubber mounting legs so it doesnt move around on top of the doghouse. Incorporated a couple drink holders in the top, a little map light and a cool little Airstream logo badge.
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Its wired with quick connectors so I can move it to access the front of the doghouse top. Its worked out pretty good


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Old 12-19-2015, 02:37 PM   #394
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Very nice!

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I really struggled with designing my head unit/stereo install. I had it in a temporary Jensen single din plastic Marine grade device for awhile just so we had some tunes on the road. There are soooo dog gone many choices these days and so many gadgets to choose from. I finally decided to do something real simple but true to the 80's vintage. I tried to kind of mimic an old Kenwood receiver I once owned and loved from that time period, something like this
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So I just kept it simple and made a small cabinet from walnut and plywood laminated with aluminum. Angled the face in the cabinet for easier vision and used an Alpine head unit. Its on rubber mounting legs so it doesnt move around on top of the doghouse. Incorporated a couple drink holders in the top, a little map light and a cool little Airstream logo badge.
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Its wired with quick connectors so I can move it to access the front of the doghouse top. Its worked out pretty good


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Old 12-19-2015, 02:52 PM   #395
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I really struggled with designing my head unit/stereo install. I had it in a temporary Jensen single din plastic Marine grade device for awhile just so we had some tunes on the road. There are soooo dog gone many choices these days and so many gadgets to choose from. I finally decided to do something real simple but true to the 80's vintage. I tried to kind of mimic an old Kenwood receiver I once owned and loved from that time period, something like this
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So I just kept it simple and made a small cabinet from walnut and plywood laminated with aluminum. Angled the face in the cabinet for easier vision and used an Alpine head unit. Its on rubber mounting legs so it doesnt move around on top of the doghouse. Incorporated a couple drink holders in the top, a little map light and a cool little Airstream logo badge.
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Its wired with quick connectors so I can move it to access the front of the doghouse top. Its worked out pretty good


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Mike, now that's a stereo!

Nice install by the way
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Old 12-20-2015, 12:18 PM   #396
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I knew there was a reason I was trying to come up with the correct ball joint tools. Today I was crawling around under the front of the Argosy and noticed these problems.

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Back in 2008 I had the front end rebuilt by some guys that worked in a machine shop owned by a friend of mine. This was moonlighting work for them.

For some reason the ball joint tapers haven't seated deep enough in the steering knuckle so the castle nuts can't be turned to engage the hole for the cotter pin. The ball joints are Moog K6174 and K6175.

Looks like a rework of the front suspension is definitely in the works this winter.

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Old 12-20-2015, 01:12 PM   #397
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I knew there was a reason I was trying to come up with the correct ball joint tools. Today I was crawling around under the front of the Argosy and noticed these problems.

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Back in 2008 I had the front end rebuilt by some guys that worked in a machine shop owned by a friend of mine. This was moonlighting work for them.

For some reason the ball joint tapers haven't seated deep enough in the steering knuckle so the castle nuts can't be turned to engage the hole for the cotter pin. The ball joints are Moog K6174 and K6175.

Looks like a rework of the front suspension is definitely in the works this winter.

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I used K6511 for the lowers and K6174 for the uppers
that just isn't right, I wonder if there was any other moonlighting going on.
Upper torques to ~ 70-80 and lower to ~80-90 and NOT what the shop manual says (130)
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:24 PM   #398
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Peter, it appears the K6511 is for the 14K chassis. As near as I've been able to figure mine is known as an 11K chassis and somes called "MHC not 14K". With that in mind the two choices seem to be K6175 and K6129T. I think the K6129T is what I might need for the lower.

The other wild card is the guys doing the work bailed on me before they were done and its possible they never torqued the nuts on the ball joints. I finished up the assembley but the springs and ball joints were already installed and I know didn't look to close at the installation as I had other things on my mind.. My main concern at the time was getting the Argosy on wheels so I could get it loaded on the trailer for the move to Kentucky.
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:47 PM   #399
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Ok, here's a potentially dumb question

Since I'm switching the toilet to a cassette style arrangement and removing the black water tank completely is there any reason I would need the 3" discharge pipe just for the gray water tank? I would think I could easily get by with a 3/4" hose style connection and use a regular garden hose to empty the tank.

Am I missing something here?!

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Old 12-21-2015, 02:40 PM   #400
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Ok, here's a potentially dumb question

Since I'm switching the toilet to a cassette style arrangement and removing the black water tank completely is there any reason I would need the 3" discharge pipe just for the gray water tank? I would think I could easily get by with a 3/4" hose style connection and use a regular garden hose to empty the tank.

Am I missing something here?!

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Good thinking! The macerator pump system have small diameter discharge hose, but it ends up in the same 3" screw in adapter for the sewer connection. I have been in campgrounds where they insisted on a tight connection to the sewer system, either via the threaded type or a rubber grommet type. I would probably consider a 1 -1 1/2 hose, so you have sufficient drainage for taking soapy showers.
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Brad, when I "RV'd" my cargo trailer a few years back, I was asking myself the same question on the gray tank discharge.

I went with the standard 3" for a couple of reasons. The 3" pipe, fittings, valve and sewer hose are all readily available and easy to get anywhere. I could also swap sewer hoses between the MH and trailer if needed (when one or the other takes a crap (ha ha), I can just grab the hose from the other. I do have a cap with the "water hose" size fitting for the trailer and I have actually taken it with me for use on the MH when going to Burning Man, but never used it.

Another reason is that I didn't want to clog up a small hose drain with food, etc. that will go down the sink. Also consider when you are sitting at a dump station and draining the gray tank through a garden hose sized drain hose and folks are lined up behind you looking at their watches. It's nice to be able to dump quickly!

If I were to do such again in the future, I would still lean toward a 3" drain.
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Old 12-21-2015, 05:29 PM   #402
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The GM29 gas tank arrived today, at least a box labeled GM29 arrived. Unfortunately the tank inside was NOT a GM29 It's some odd ball shaped tank that looks like it's supposed to wrap around a spare tire.

So now I have to deal with returning the tank and either getting them to ship the correct one or find a different source. I hate dealing with returns!

Oh well, just one more day in the life of an Argosy


On a somewhat better note I did receive the rest of the ball joint tools that I bought off ebay.
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And from RockAuto I received the fan clutch that everyone seems to be ordering these days I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was actually made in the U.S.A. which is something you don't see much of these days.
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Good thinking! The macerator pump system have small diameter discharge hose, but it ends up in the same 3" screw in adapter for the sewer connection. I have been in campgrounds where they insisted on a tight connection to the sewer system, either via the threaded type or a rubber grommet type. I would probably consider a 1 -1 1/2 hose, so you have sufficient drainage for taking soapy showers.
Peter, after reading your comments and Dean's comments below it sounds like size does matter

I wonder how difficult it would be to find flexible enough hose in 1-1/2". The could be a stumbling block to using smaller than 3".


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Brad, when I "RV'd" my cargo trailer a few years back, I was asking myself the same question on the gray tank discharge.

I went with the standard 3" for a couple of reasons. The 3" pipe, fittings, valve and sewer hose are all readily available and easy to get anywhere. I could also swap sewer hoses between the MH and trailer if needed (when one or the other takes a crap (ha ha), I can just grab the hose from the other. I do have a cap with the "water hose" size fitting for the trailer and I have actually taken it with me for use on the MH when going to Burning Man, but never used it.

Another reason is that I didn't want to clog up a small hose drain with food, etc. that will go down the sink. Also consider when you are sitting at a dump station and draining the gray tank through a garden hose sized drain hose and folks are lined up behind you looking at their watches. It's nice to be able to dump quickly!

If I were to do such again in the future, I would still lean toward a 3" drain.
Dean, you brought up a good point about drain times. While the Argosy gray water tank is rather small compared to the larger Classic's draining 20 or so gallons through a 3/4" hose would definitely take some time.

Right now the black water tank sits on the left and the gray water tank on the right. They are tied together with a Y pipe in the middle. I'll have to look and see how difficult it will be to cut off the line going to the black water tank and figure out a way to cap it. After that's done if the arrangement doesn't take up a lot of space I might leave it. Otherwise I'll look at alternative locations and routing.

Thank you both for the feedback

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Hoses for pool equipment are 1 1/2 ", same stuff I used for the water inlet
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sioux-Chief-1-1-2-in-x-50-ft-Polyethylene-Pool-and-Spa-Hose-900-17600B00504/202257712
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Hoses for pool equipment are 1 1/2 ", same stuff I used for the water inlet
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sioux-Chief-1-1-2-in-x-50-ft-Polyethylene-Pool-and-Spa-Hose-900-17600B00504/202257712
Pool hose would definitely do it although it wouldn't collapse to a smaller length like the 3" black water hoses do. I wonder if they make a collapsible hose in 1-1/2"?

By the way, your link takes me to your craigslist ad for the 31' trailer
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Oh yeah, almost forgot. The LED headlight housings arrived today as well.
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The LED bulbs haven't arrived yet but I'm using the same ones in my TR6 so I was able to do a trial fit.
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Fit seems to be just fine. Sometime this weekend I'll try and power them up to to get an idea of how they will look.
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Quality for the housing seems to be decent but only time will tell how long they last.

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