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Old 04-05-2013, 06:16 PM   #141
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Steve, you must be working on something British...
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:23 PM   #142
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:38 PM   #143
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This morning I started installing the aluminum panels that I fabricated for sealing the wheel wells. I neglected to get any "during" pictures because vulkem is just to messy to be using a camera at the same time

First thing I did was fit all the panels and once I was satisfied I would set a panel in place, drill the rivet holes and used Clecos to hold the panel in place. Once all panels were fitted I took everything apart and slathered vulkem all over. I then put the panels back in place once again using Clecos to hold them. Then I riveted everything in place. The vulkem oozed from all of the seams so I think I got everything sealed good.

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This was the passenger side. In order to get access to the drivers side I have to remove the complete bathroom

I was planning on pulling all the cabinets and walls out eventually so I could replace all of the plywood floor but I had hoped to put it off for a while. But since I need to get the wheel wells sealed up so I can keep the mud daubers and various other critters out I went ahead and removed the left side cabinets and walls.

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After removing the right side bathroom wall I found this nest so it looks like I'm going to have to look closely at the underside to find out where the critters are gaining access.

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Tomrrow I'll post pictures of what I had to do to get the toilet to get it out...
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:18 PM   #144
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Once I got the shower floor pan removed I found that what I thought was just a small mouse condominium actually turned out to be the mouse version of the Taj Mahal

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I mentioned the other day I would post a picture of what I had to do to remove the toilet.

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Both bolts just spun and since I was planning on a new toilet anyway I just went at it with the Multi-Tool. A little slice here and there and the toilet came away in pieces

So here is what the left side of the coach looks like now.

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One thing I found rather interesting or frustrating depending on your point of view. You may not have as good a seal on those access hatches as you think you do. Here's a couple of pictures looking at the fridge access cover from the inside looking out. See the two little cracks of light. Turns out those little gaps are in the corners where the edge isn't perfectly flat. That's the way the frames were fabricated.

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From the outside it looks like it's closed and sealed properly. So I need to figure out how to fix those along with everything else that I'm dealing with
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:39 PM   #145
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Ok, back to working on getting the cockpit sealed so the mud daubers don't come visiting.

This first picture is of the drivers side wheel well as I was getting ready to rivet everything in place.

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Behind each of the seats in the cockpit there is an 8" wide section of plywood that runs side to side. This piece basically widens the cockpit floor area behind the seats. The aluminum strips cover a 1/2" gap between sections of tubing. Airstream didn't use any sealant in this area at all. The amount of rust that I found told me that I had better seal the area off for good.

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The last major area that needed to be rebuilt is the section over the top of the transmission bell housing. The original aluminum cover was an angular piece that was partially rotted away and was only held by a few rivets, again no sealant was used by Airstream when the coach was built

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The angled cover left very little room between the cover and the bell housing so I've opted to make a boxed shape cover.

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To get the ends of the box to fit properly over various obstacles I had to perform several different bending operations. Took a while to fabricate the end caps
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:45 PM   #146
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The finished transmission cover...

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I kind of like the silver in the wheel wells. Makes for easy viewing. I'll decide later whether or not to leave bare, paint or cover with some sort of under coating.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:53 AM   #147
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Great work and pics! Like I said before, anytime you want to visit Memphis, let me know!

Felicia and I need to plan a camping trip closer to you so I can see the work first hand.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:18 AM   #148
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Great work and pics! Like I said before, anytime you want to visit Memphis, let me know!
Memphis is on the list of to do's but no schedule as yet.

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I'm always looking for suckers....err...I mean workers....I mean visitors
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:01 AM   #149
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One last piece of the puzzle that needed to be completed before I can finish sealing up the cockpit walls was to pull the first section of wood flooring to check out the flat aluminum panel that was part of the original transmission cover.

For the most part the condition of the steel tubing framework wasn't as bad as I was expecting but there will be a lot of clean up work once I pull up the rest of the flooring. As you can see in the attached pictures there is a 1" thick cavity between the wood flooring and the bottom of the structure that is filled with white Styrofoam insulation.

I was somewhat surprised to see the foam due to the fact that the Classic series like the 345 doesn't have floor insulation. I like the idea of having the insulation there and am wondering why Airstream switched their construction methods. I was also surprised at how easy the wood floor came up. On the 345 the wood floor is screwed AND nailed in place and was a real bear to remove. On the Argosy the wood was only held in place on the edges by some clamping screws that didn't really hold the wood in place at all. It was almost as if they were trying to create a floating floor. Regardless, when I put the new wood down it will be fastened very securely in place.

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The aluminum cover sheet was not in the best of shape as it was severely corroded where the rivets were fastening it to the frame. It didn't take long to remove the old cover plate and replace with a new section. I sealed it real well with Tempro 635 and riveted about every 4" or so.

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Next step is to re-install the aluminum angle that had to be removed to replace the aluminum cover plate. Once the angle is in place I can finish installing the new rear section of the cockpit floor. Once that's done the cockpit walls will be re-installed and then no more worries about mud daubers

Oh yeah, almost forgot. I tested my new remote control mirror installation by connecting their controls to a battery and testing each of the motions. I'm happy to say both mirrors move as expected so no worries about the wiring!

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Old 04-11-2013, 06:30 PM   #150
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Yesterday as I was getting ready to head down my driveway I snapped these two pictures.

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Spring is definitely here
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:35 PM   #151
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Yesterday as I was getting ready to head down my driveway I snapped these two pictures.

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Spring is definitely here
Beautiful, thanks for sharing...
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:46 PM   #152
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Yesterday I had cut the plywood for the back edge of the cockpit floor and this evening I got the piece fastened in place.

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I would have cut and installed the floor as well but a storm started to blow through just as I was ready to get the saw horses and plywood setup outside.

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I sat inside the motorhome for a while watching the storm when I noticed a couple of drops of water in the entry step well. I have part of the inner wall off in that area and realized that water was working its way through the seam between the side of the door frame and the shell. The wind was blowing hard enough that it was forcing water through whatever gaps are in that seam.

I had previously noticed water in that area of the floor before but couldn't pin point where it was coming from. I thought I had solved that problem when I sealed the top of the door outside as I hadn't seen any since. Guess I need to do the entire seam before I claim success.

Its time to hit every possible seam on the outside with either Tempro 635 or Acryl-R. It's also painfully obvious that fixing the leaks is not a one time deal. Everything I'm doing now needs to be checked and probably redone every two to three years. Now I'm really glad I don't own a 345

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Old 04-13-2013, 12:31 PM   #153
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Well I'm happy to say I've got the interior cockpit wall panels on and sealed finally

I've pretty much been working non stop trying to get the walls sealed before the flying beasts try to move in for the summer. The last couple of days I've killed a half dozen wasps while I was closing things up. I think they were desperate to get in before I could finish!

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I also took time to seal the edges of the outer door frame with Tempro. It's not a pretty job but one of these days I'm going to have to paint the exterior so I figure anything that keeps the inside driy for the time being is good enough me

Now that the cabinets have been removed from the street side I've found three more leaks. They all appear to be coming from the vent stacks. I've got the gaskets and screens to fix em but haven't had time to do the task. I believe that will be next on my list. Also I thought the rear leak was caused by the cracks in the tail light housing but I guess I was wrong. I've bought some Acryl-R and will be applying it to all the seams sometime in the next few weeks.

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The new wood floor is not going in until I'm certain the coach is leak free. Last thing I want to do is get a new floor wet before I even get a chance to use it!
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Good Job, Brad. Now get that A/C and the stereo installed and working , so you can have a cozy and bug free place to work in the summer.
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