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07-17-2019, 11:54 PM
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1977 28' Argosy 28
Baytown
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1977 argosy 28 454 motor mounts
I can't seem to find motor mounts that fit. Anyone else had this problem? I order them for the 77 p30 454 and the angle ends up being wrong and the bolt wont go through. I'd love to get a poly set as my power is up dramatically from the original.
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07-18-2019, 12:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Ebro
, Fla Panhandle
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Haven't had to deal with the motor mounts yet. Surely someone will chime in with the info you need.
I'm interested in how you have boosted the power of your engine, can you fill us in ? Is it the original unit?
Cheers Richard
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07-18-2019, 04:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jjona5
I can't seem to find motor mounts that fit. Anyone else had this problem? I order them for the 77 p30 454 and the angle ends up being wrong and the bolt wont go through. I'd love to get a poly set as my power is up dramatically from the original.
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I just went to Napa and said I needed motor mounts for a chevy 454 in a P30 chassis. It's my understanding that GM used the same basic motor mounts for pretty much all of the small block/big block engines from the 50s through the 80s or 90s.
Can you post a picture of the problem? When I was installing my engine I had to wiggle the engine some to get things to line up properly but there was no gross mis-alignment.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
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07-18-2019, 07:41 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
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I want to know the polyurethane motor mounts for Argosy motorhome with BBC.
I made a mistake before, bought wrong motor mounts for my Argosy.
I should have checked the original motor mounts before the order.
It's my shame story of a shopping from foreign country.
The new one is not same shape as the original.
It might be for SBC.
I use non poly mounts (WESTAR EM2395) for my Argosy at this point.
But I'm interested with in "Prothane 7-507".
The list doesn't say about P30, however it included several cars which have a 454 8cyl.
(C10 - C30, K10 - K30, R10 - R30, G10 - G30 and etc.. But those model years are later than Argosies.. )
Check it out page 18 in the link below!
https://prothane.com/wp-content/uplo...NT-7-10-18.pdf
At least Rock Auto said "WESTAR EM2395 fits for those cars".
Anyway, I'm not sure the "Prothane 7-507" would be able to use for P30 or not. I need to more research about it, do not trust me!
Thank you
Yuki
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07-18-2019, 01:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1973 21' Globetrotter
1975 26' Argosy 26
Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I don’t remember where I bought mine for the ‘75’ but it was no problem, RockAuto? Or the local auto parts store. It was a few years ago.
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07-18-2019, 07:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 435
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Sorry for the lots of posts on this thread.
I looked for motor mounts on the web then found the other ones.
"Energy Suspension 3.1121" it says "3 mounting holes style clam shell insert", I think this is what I needed.
https://www.energysuspensionparts.com/3.1121
I should try it for my Argosy, however mine has just a stock motor..
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07-18-2019, 11:06 PM
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I have a 496 cu inch fuel injected motor. I put in the poly trans mount but the only engine mounts that I've been able to buy locally don't fit. I guess I could give rockauto a whirl. I'm just terrible at returning things. The mounts that came off my 454 fit perfectly just like they did on the 454. Shrug.
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07-18-2019, 11:08 PM
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Energy suspensions tech support is pretty terrible. I asked them about conflicting catalog data they had about the transmission mount I bought and they told me they had no verified data. I love the company but straight answers would be helpful. I ended up going by what amazon said fit(not what their catalog said) and it fit perfectly.
I looked at reviews for that clamshell insert and a youtube video and you have to cut open your old mount and right now its the only set that actually fits. I'd hate to destroy it.
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Originally Posted by GREEN ARGOSY
Sorry for the lots of posts on this thread.
I looked for motor mounts on the web then found the other ones.
"Energy Suspension 3.1121" it says "3 mounting holes style clam shell insert", I think this is what I needed.
https://www.energysuspensionparts.com/3.1121
I should try it for my Argosy, however mine has just a stock motor..
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07-18-2019, 11:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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I do like that the only complaints about those prothanes are they have to be shaved down to fit. I can live with that.
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07-18-2019, 11:17 PM
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Well I went to the energy suspension page and it states, "3 Bolt Style. to replace the inserts of the following GM type mounts: 15731260 / 15529451 / 15529452 / 15592505 / 22145334 and aftermarket part number 2412."
Then I went to rockauto and found a mount that had the oem part numbers listed Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 14071939, 22145334, 22188393, 334941, 357717, 3993721
Looks like we have a match.
I'm going to order a set of the rockauto mounts(3 bucks) and if they work I'll probably order the energy suspension inserts and try to put them into my original mounts.
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07-21-2019, 08:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 34.5' Airstream 345
Menomonee Falls
, Wisconsin
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Hey,
What did you use for your dipstick tube. It looks like stainless. I like that idea. And what did u use for the actual dipstick. I made a new one,and it's still tough to get in and out. Thanks DJ
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07-21-2019, 10:46 PM
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I'm guessing something like this. https://www.lokar.com/engine-dipsticks.html
I used them in my v8 volvo for transmission and oil.
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07-22-2019, 05:45 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jjona5
Well I went to the energy suspension page and it states, "3 Bolt Style. to replace the inserts of the following GM type mounts: 15731260 / 15529451 / 15529452 / 15592505 / 22145334 and aftermarket part number 2412."
Then I went to rockauto and found a mount that had the oem part numbers listed Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 14071939, 22145334, 22188393, 334941, 357717, 3993721
Looks like we have a match.
I'm going to order a set of the rockauto mounts(3 bucks) and if they work I'll probably order the energy suspension inserts and try to put them into my original mounts.
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I ordered the motor mount inserts on amazon last week.
I'm going to dismantle the original motor mounts, then I try to put in the insert to the clam shell when the parcel has arrived!
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07-22-2019, 06:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davejay
Hey,
What did you use for your dipstick tube. It looks like stainless. I like that idea. And what did u use for the actual dipstick. I made a new one,and it's still tough to get in and out. Thanks DJ
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I use Lokar X1220027 for the engine oil dipstick, and also use similar flexible braided stainless dipstick for trans fluid.
I eliminated the original "long" engine oil dipstick and filler tube.
Lokar X1220027 is not likes the original, just mounts to a header bolt.
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07-23-2019, 04:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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1977 28' Argosy 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GREEN ARGOSY
I ordered the motor mount inserts on amazon last week.
I'm going to dismantle the original motor mounts, then I try to put in the insert to the clam shell when the parcel has arrived!
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Sweet let me know how it goes!
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08-03-2019, 08:35 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 20' Argosy 20
Matsubushi
, Saitama
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jjona5
Sweet let me know how it goes!
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Urethane motor mount inserts have arrived!
I've tried to put in the insert to the clam shell today.
I posted few pictures on my thread.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f310...ml#post2272520
However I haven't install the motor mounts on my Argosy yet,
I'll do that in the near future!
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