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Old 05-27-2015, 08:53 PM   #15
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There's been many times I've thought about adding a storage compartment like you're doing. The 20' Argosies like mine are extremely short of storage space so needless to say I'm going to have to look at the possibilities of doing something similar.

Did you take any closeup pictures of how you fastened the framework to the aluminum shell?

Brad
This is all the pixs I have. Sorry I didn't get any close-ups.

I fastened the lower support at the back of the cab inside the aluminum rail just under the steel end cap. The front was easy as the coach had nice brackets where I believe the sunshades mounted.

I added shims to get everything at the same height and then screwed in the two 90 degree cross members.

From here I mitered the top supports leaving room for the insulation to lay.

At the top I did screw the vertical supports into the aluminum frame for added support.

Then I pre-drilled the outside supports from the bottom and screwed a support beam over the 1/4" finish wood (this is hidden from camera view in the two photos). This served as additional support so I could bend the 1/4" finish wood without worrying about the screws pulling out. (one tip I learned: I use a scape piece of lumber 7' or 8' to pinch between the floor and the roof to bend and hold your plywood while bending it)

After bending/ fastening the top finish wood I simply cut out cardboard until I had the shapes for the round sections until I had enclosed the frame.
Hope this helps? One thing to think about is seat height. I'm 6' and with new seats this shelf/ storage just leaves just enough room to sit down and feel comfortable.

To be perfectly honest, the cap actually made the cab feel smaller and thus, it makes the rig feel smaller to drive.
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Old 05-31-2015, 07:25 PM   #16
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Seats and this weekend's pix update

Here are some of the seat pixs and some of the weekends progress.
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:53 PM   #17
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Seats are a similar concept to what we have installed.

We went with ones where the headrests fold in before the seat folds flat to stop the head rests hitting the steering wheel or dash - do you have to remove the headrests before you fold the backs down?

Even with the head rest tucked in, on the drivers seat, the back would hit the wheel. We have a disconnectable steering wheel to give more clearance.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:58 PM   #18
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Seats are a similar concept to what we have installed.

We went with ones where the headrests fold in before the seat folds flat to stop the head rests hitting the steering wheel or dash - do you have to remove the headrests before you fold the backs down?

Even with the head rest tucked in, on the drivers seat, the back would hit the wheel. We have a disconnectable steering wheel to give more clearance.
I have seen your seats and they are great. I have to admit that I stumbled upon ours looking for anything to replace the older seats. The drivers seat, even with the headrest removed, facing straight forward does hit the steering wheel.

I found that if I tilt the seat forward and turn (with a little force) the seat will push past the wheel and the left side arm rest. The seat then lays flat but faces the passenger seat. The good news is the whole maneuver is completed with the head rest connected.

For now I'm OK with this and hope to resolve this issue after I get the rest of the bugs worked out
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Makes sense if you are using with the seat folded down facing the passenger, I was assuming you wanted them laid down facing forward - my bad!
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:07 PM   #20
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more build pixs

Finally getting to the gratifying portion of the built. Finishing the dinette and kitchen. Next, on to the window coverings.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:28 PM   #21
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Window coverings

Window coverings and the beginning of the led lighting.

I decided to illuminate the roof of the main dinette/ seating area with non-directional LED's, reminiscent of the long light fixtures in the original.

I was able to use the existing wiring and direct the LED's onto the roof, similar to an airline.

The lighting is the last picture however, I had to run the wiring in the picture to test the look as I have the battery's removed from the rig.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:34 AM   #22
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Its looking good! I have thought about adding similar wooden features to mine but I wasn't sure how much weight it would add, any idea? The only thing I did add was a nice oak bed frame and custom counters in the back.
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Old 07-05-2015, 05:49 PM   #23
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Its looking good! I have thought about adding similar wooden features to mine but I wasn't sure how much weight it would add, any idea? The only thing I did add was a nice oak bed frame and custom counters in the back.
You Know, I don't think it added that much weight? I have not weighed her yet but, will let you know the numbers once I'm completely done.

I used very thin light plywood. I also removed the old plastics/ lights/ carpet, curtains and trim.

In my previous Scotsman trailer build, I used the same materials and when we were done it was the same as the factory spec weight so, I expect we'll be really close.

I'm very weight conscious when ever purchasing material.
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Old 07-05-2015, 07:41 PM   #24
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4th of July (unfinished camping)

We took her out partially finished and I'm amazed by the 454's power, how the coach handled and, how the air flows past the driver/ passenger windows. The engine AC isn't charged and it was hot this weekend =).

We got 8.5 MPG (I have not tuned the engine at all) at 60 - 63 MPH. I hope to see this improve. Our speedometer showed 55 but an app we downloaded floated between 60 and 61.

With new tires around, the coach tracks smooth. I repeatedly noted this and showed my wife by taking my hands of the wheel and showing her.

That said, we were driving out of Livingston MT this morning. It was windy and the coach did wander a bit. But with the wind head-on, we drove 60 again with that 454 power. This is new for a past trailer towing guy.

When we left it was 95 - 100 degrees so we really tested the cooling systems. I only noted the gauge move as we toped some bigger hills and it dropped back down as soon as we peaked the hill. And, we trucked up these bigger MT hills at 50 -55 with little effort from the 454. I was impressed again. I've not had a big block before =)

Anyway, I'm very happy and glad that we made our purchase. I find this coach has touches all over it that I didn't find with previous rigs I've owned and, most noticeable is how she tracks down the road and, how quiet the open windows are. My wife talked on her phone with the windows wide open.... Comfortably

Here are some updated photo's of the build. I especially like the hidden TV that will eventually slide and hide behind the dinette booth seat.
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Glad you got to use her! We went out as well this weekend, stayed at a place on Chautauqua Lake in southern NY. I averaged about the same, however, I had my generator running so I could keep the interior cool with the rooftop. I was also averaging around 70mph according to my gauges. It was screaming down the thruway but handled nicely. Dont you love some of the looks that you get from people passing by?
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Here are some updated photo's of the build. I especially like the hidden TV that will eventually slide and hide behind the dinette booth seat.
Looking REALLY good!
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Old 07-23-2015, 08:59 PM   #27
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updated pictures

Just posting some updates

I got the dash wiring cleaned up, deep cycle battery's installed (tested adequate) and dc electrical is going back in and up and running. I found this older tachometer at goodwill just after I bought this rig and it had to go in. I must have cleaned out 200' of old aftermarket wiring jobs.
Through increasing the rear bath/ shower size, we lost 1/2 of one cabinet closet but, extended the shower to 48" (with a seat over the Generator box). So rather than add a small closet, we added a small book/ DVD shelf. Under the shelf is left open for larger flat items like outdoor tables and/or a box fan.
I finished the table and added a leaf with the existing table hardware.


I did pay to have the last of the bench seat cushions sewed as I'm just out of steam and want them done for our late July trip. Having to finish the floors this weekend and add a new Thetford Aqua-Magic ceramic stool will fill the time I have left.


We also tested the propane and I lost 1.5 psi over a week so I'm not trusting the LP yet. I did add a new LP, CO2 and smoke alarms along with fire extinguisher.


I have the black water and fresh water up and running but still haven't tested the grey water, The release valve is stuck and I'm hoping adding some water will loosen this but, if anyone has experienced fixing this I'm open to any info.
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:09 PM   #28
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couple more photo's

Just a few more photo's. I added LED lights to the old fixtures. They work great. Go online to purchase, you can buy between 10 and 12 for under $12 online, and I pulled these before we sold our old 2001 21' StarCraft that we have used for a season last year.
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