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Old 11-22-2014, 01:46 PM   #21
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After 2+ years on this forum and thinking we were going to get a Airstream, we cam across the Oliver (fiberglass) web site and decided that was the better way to go. That was one of the first questions we asked was about a SC hitch. All the replies were ' we don't use one". I was still kind of skeptical, but we just pulled it from the plant in Hollenwald, TN to K.C. and it pulled straight as an arrow. Had a little bit of cross wind and many trucks passing, and it was solid. Oh, it's 23'6 and about 4500 lbs.

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Old 11-23-2014, 06:20 AM   #22
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I'll never forget a highway incident in my side mirror. A half ton pick up pulling an old SOB box camper, single axle and about 18 foot long. We were at 70 mph going down a long downhill grade. This fellow decides he is going to pass me and pulls out in the left lane. And then the sway started! That little trailer swayed back and forth with such ferocity the rear wheels left the ground! I could see it in my mirror. I thought sure they were going over and then run over by other traffic. By the grace of God it did not, and the driver carefully slowed and pulled back into the right lane. I can only imagine what his wife was saying!

I believe small trailers with single axles are more prone to sway. I would recommend a simple friction sway bar to help. And I recommend slower speeds and no sudden steering inputs, especially while going downhill.

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PS That said, we all know Airstreams with DuraTorq axles are famous for their stability.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:15 AM   #23
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I'll never forget a highway incident in my side mirror. A half ton pick up pulling an old SOB box camper, single axle and about 18 foot long. We were at 70 mph going down a long downhill grade. This fellow decides he is going to pass me and pulls out in the left lane. And then the sway started! That little trailer swayed back and forth with such ferocity the rear wheels left the ground! I could see it in my mirror. I thought sure they were going over and then run over by other traffic. By the grace of God it did not, and the driver carefully slowed and pulled back into the right lane. I can only imagine what his wife was saying!

I believe small trailers with single axles are more prone to sway. I would recommend a simple friction sway bar to help. And I recommend slower speeds and no sudden steering inputs, especially while going downhill.

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PS That said, we all know Airstreams with DuraTorq axles are famous for their stability.

I agree 100%. Happened to me only once with my 10' (box) pop-up. It was during evasive maneuvers as an accident was unfolding in front of me. Instead of avoiding one accident, I was suddenly avoiding a second simultaneously....My trailer which suddenly had a mind of its own.

Also by the grace of God, we came out of it without a scratch. Friction sway bar went on the next day. And that was a 1500# trailer (no brakes, however) pulled bu a 4200# Astro van. It always felt rock solid as well, until something unexpected happened.

IMO, the size of the trailer makes no difference in the need for SC.....the product needed is worthy of discussion for the size of the TV and trailer, but we all need it.

If I were to buy a Bambi, I think I'd opt for either a Reese Straight line or a Hensley Cub.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:47 AM   #24
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Yep I saw a Chevy Monte Carlo go horizontal from the sway on a single axle U-Hall trailer. Flat stretch of interstate doing about 60 mph. Was very scary how quick this happened. Thankfully the car and the trailer stayed on their wheels but the torque of the sway was so great that the Chevy went off the road and ended up perpendicular to the highway and the trailer.

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Old 11-23-2014, 09:15 AM   #25
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Went with WDH, but never installed Sway Control. Have not ever experienced significant sway--even at significant, but I will put them on regardless before long! Can only help!

I know that it is completely acceptable to go without the WDH as well, but it just feels so much better knowing more weight is up on the front axle- I was surprised at how much more more comfortable I felt immediately! And more importantly, it means my wife has been even more comfortable taking some turns at the wheel!
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Old 11-23-2014, 11:23 AM   #26
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Do I need a Sway Control Hitch pulling a 16ft trailer?
Do I need a Sway Control Hitch and WD pulling a 19ft trailer?
I have a new 4x4 Ram 2500 Diesel truck.
My thinking is that it is easier to travel with a small 16ft trailer, specially if I don't need the WD Sway Control Hitch. I am aware of the obvious space differences between a 16 and 19ft trailer. Being 73, I want it simple. My plan is to travel around the US and having our bed with us instead of going Hotels.
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is a friction sway bar that expensive ? I can't see the bambi flipping your 2500 truck over, and you may not feel sway, but seems like cheap risk reduction for the "exceptional" situation.

If it was swaying a little all the time would you even feel it in the 2500 ? Or would it just slowly tear the trailer and your frame apart. Not an expert, just thinking outloud.
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Old 11-23-2014, 11:46 AM   #27
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I don't think constant , non-sway controlled, trailer movement tears anything up, until something unexpected happens. But it is fatiguing, in my experience, to make the minor adjustments in the wheel all day long.

Not expensive at all....in fact, here's a heck of a deal:

Friction Sway Control - $24.95
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Old 11-24-2014, 01:02 AM   #28
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Personal opinion--I flat WON'T tow without my ProPride sway prevention. Or any similar Hensley design hitch setup in a pinch.

Too much white-knuckle with our rig before we went to the PP hitch...now it's no issue--55 in CA, whatever is legal elsewhere. 75 in Texas with a heck of a tailwind was a bit much, so I backed off a bit, but not because of sway...
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The Equalizer type designs like the Fastway, etc also do use the drag of the bars on the L lip you attach on the trailer A frame as sway control, so while they are mainly WD hitches, the friction is also a sway eliminator. I works quite well.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:39 PM   #30
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Fastway e2 round bar hitch. I would like to get something for my 16 ft Bambi however don't know enough about WD & sway control to make a good decision. Any thoughts on the Fastway e2 or others recently priced. The 16 ft pulls very nicely. Have pulled approximately 700 miles with no issue, however, I do not know how it may handle in an emergency or high wind.

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Old 12-18-2014, 12:48 AM   #31
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Gerhard, the "vote" seems to be that you don't need a sway bar-- unless you do. We personally opt for the safest solution.

Many AS owners older than you have learned how the hitch works with the sway bar. There might be good reasons not to have a sway bar, but I don't think your age is relevant.

If you buy an AS, your sales person should be prepared to spend a lot of time with you, step by step, showing you how everything works. You can practice hitching and unhitching in the parking lot while he watches. You can take notes on how to do it.

Alternatively, would you be happier with a camper van or small motor home?

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After 2+ years on this forum and thinking we were going to get a Airstream, we cam across the Oliver (fiberglass) web site and decided that was the better way to go. That was one of the first questions we asked was about a SC hitch. All the replies were ' we don't use one". I was still kind of skeptical, but we just pulled it from the plant in Hollenwald, TN to K.C. and it pulled straight as an arrow. Had a little bit of cross wind and many trucks passing, and it was solid. Oh, it's 23'6 and about 4500 lbs.

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I had never seen an Oliver trailer. Very nice!
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:22 PM   #33
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Have you seen a Scamp, Casita, Burro, or Escape? Very similar-
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We've been inside Scamps and Casitas in campgrounds. (Generally their owners are very proud of them, and will happily offer a tour, esp. if we reciprocate.) A huge advantage for small trailer fans (like us) is their light weight. A disadvantage is that compared to even the 16' Bambi/Sport, they seem much less spacious on the inside, even with their longer models. They seem narrower, with lower ceilings, and the dinette table is smaller in some editions. Some come with an inboard toilet, some don't.

Also, Escape trailers are made in BC, just east of Vancouver. This company is very small and doesn't put out too many at a time. The last I checked, they were significantly back-ordered.
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Yes, Casitas are very small, but the space is used very efficiently. The 17' is great for one person. Also, the owner's make brilliant space-saving modifications.
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We drove to Tampa to purchase the 16ft Bambi. The 48" bed was too hard to handle with 2 people. The dinette is not easy to make into a bunk. This peticular new 16ft sport was in bad shape in many ways. We ended up not bying it. Len and Jeanne are correct, we should get a small Motorhome like an Interstate or Roadtrek. I just don't want to pull anything behind me or have a long rig. Thanks for all the advice,
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:10 PM   #37
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The Oliver is like those others in appearance only. It is a finely engineered trailer down to the smallest detail. Had they had a 25' model, I wouldn't have an AS now.
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I have a neighbor with a Casitas. He gutted it and has turned the inside into a Gypsies Wagon. Says it takes him back to his family roots.
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I have owned a Casita and a Bigfoot. The only problem with both of them was space. I'm a Maximalist. If I could get a 27-30 foot fiberglass trailer with a interior like my Airstream, I'd say that was my final trailer.

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