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12-27-2018, 07:59 PM
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#41
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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01-23-2019, 09:52 AM
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#42
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2 Rivet Member
2017 16' Sport
Adirondacks
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 51
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Sport 16. While at mothership having warranty work done we had a swivel light added over an end (under speaker) of the dinette (for reading when turned into bed) and a 12 volt DC cigarette plug added under the dinette.
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02-08-2019, 09:43 AM
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#43
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3 Rivet Member
2016 22' Sport
Leesburg
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BambiCamp
^ all the above advice ^
Keeping the floor clean is a constant chore - especially in the wet bath- a must have for us is a teak bath floor - lets all the dirt fall through - out of sight out of mind. we actually remove the floor to shower.
https://www.teakworks4u.com/collecti...nt=35032518606
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So did anyone put the teak floor in the 22' Sport? I can see it in the wet bath, but do not see the advantage in the 22'.
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02-09-2019, 07:08 AM
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#44
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4 Rivet Member
2018 22' Sport
Blue Sky Ranch
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 341
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Yes, for us Airsteaming is often rugged camping. As such our shoes get sand and gravel embedded in the hiking soles. Having the teak floor in the 22FB bath keeps the trash down under until we are ready to pick them up and vacuum or sweep (usually weekly). The teak in the shower is a huge safety feature with the non-slip wood. We wouldn’t be be without it.
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2019 Tiffin Wayfarer 24TW
Ham Radio Call sign K5FT
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07-28-2023, 09:11 AM
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#45
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1 Rivet Member
2019 16' Sport
Norman
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 10
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Where did you get the stainless steel fridge vents?
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07-30-2023, 06:49 AM
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Launce
2012 16' Sport
Greenbelt
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 47
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My attention was called back to this very useful thread, and I thought I'd add a word about the lithium batteries I've installed. (I assume by now the OP has acquired what they decided on, and more!)
After a few years of using the Sport 16, I bought two 100AH Battle Born batteries (had to build myself a little platform for them, since they didn't fit in the original space, lengthwise).
At the time, I was just trying to extend my potential dry-camping stays -- which they did -- but these batteries are dang expensive, and I wondered whether they were really worth the money.
But here's the thing: I set out on my first long trip after installation, and I couldn't figure out what was happening with the handling. It seemed like a little pressure on the brakes at low speed was causing all kinds of strange things -- like the trailer brakes locking up and skidding on gravel.
Finally, I figured it out. The trailer brakes were actually working properly, basically.
With the old lead/acid setup, even with a larger battery, I could never adjust the brakes the way you're supposed to -- get going at 25 mph, apply just the trailer brakes, and adjust the braking power up to the point where they lock up and skid, back them off a tad.
My brakes did slow down the rig, and eventually stop it. But they never locked up, even at full power and triple "boost"! My tow vehicle was doing the lion's share of stopping the rig.
But with the extra juice from the lithium setup, I can do the adjustment procedure perfectly, and it's only midway on the 0-5 power scale. Plenty of room to adjust for different weight/conditions.
So I figure that for that unexpected safety improvement itself, the lithium investment was worth every penny. The other benefits -- the longer charge life; the discharge profile, where the voltage stays high over the discharge period, and doesn't slowly decline like lead/acid; and just the fact that the batteries are so much lighter and easier to carry -- that's all gravy.
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07-30-2023, 07:53 AM
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#47
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Kingston
, Washington
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Launce
My attention was called back to this very useful thread, and I thought I'd add a word about the lithium batteries I've installed. (I assume by now the OP has acquired what they decided on, and more!)
After a few years of using the Sport 16, I bought two 100AH Battle Born batteries (had to build myself a little platform for them, since they didn't fit in the original space, lengthwise).
At the time, I was just trying to extend my potential dry-camping stays -- which they did -- but these batteries are dang expensive, and I wondered whether they were really worth the money.
But here's the thing: I set out on my first long trip after installation, and I couldn't figure out what was happening with the handling. It seemed like a little pressure on the brakes at low speed was causing all kinds of strange things -- like the trailer brakes locking up and skidding on gravel.
Finally, I figured it out. The trailer brakes were actually working properly, basically.
With the old lead/acid setup, even with a larger battery, I could never adjust the brakes the way you're supposed to -- get going at 25 mph, apply just the trailer brakes, and adjust the braking power up to the point where they lock up and skid, back them off a tad.
My brakes did slow down the rig, and eventually stop it. But they never locked up, even at full power and triple "boost"! My tow vehicle was doing the lion's share of stopping the rig.
But with the extra juice from the lithium setup, I can do the adjustment procedure perfectly, and it's only midway on the 0-5 power scale. Plenty of room to adjust for different weight/conditions.
So I figure that for that unexpected safety improvement itself, the lithium investment was worth every penny. The other benefits -- the longer charge life; the discharge profile, where the voltage stays high over the discharge period, and doesn't slowly decline like lead/acid; and just the fact that the batteries are so much lighter and easier to carry -- that's all gravy.
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I don't believe trailer braking power comes from the on-board batteries, it all comes through the 7-way plug. When the breakaway gizmo is pulled, then the brakes get power from the on-board batteries.
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07-30-2023, 11:07 AM
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#48
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Yup. Absolutely correct.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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07-30-2023, 06:17 PM
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#49
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2 Rivet Member
2015 16' Sport
Minneapolis
, MN
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 45
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stainless vents
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Originally Posted by Zowie
Where did you get the stainless steel fridge vents?
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Did you ever find these? I am looking for them also.
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07-31-2023, 12:49 AM
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#50
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2 Rivet Member
2017 16' Sport
San Diego and Julian
, California
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 72
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The steel refrigerator vents can be ordered by Airstream Supply.
The new exterior fridge vent doors are pretty easy to switch out from the old plastic ones. Make sure the Louver openings are wide to allow proper ventilation, or you will have to install tiny fans.
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08-01-2023, 05:51 AM
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#51
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2 Rivet Member
2015 16' Sport
Minneapolis
, MN
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 45
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stainless steel fridge vents
SanAndVin
I am not finding the stainless steel fridge vents on Airstream Supply. In fact, I think that website is no longer working.
Do you have a link to the item somewhere?
Thanks for your help!
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08-01-2023, 07:41 AM
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#52
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Rivet Master
2007 16' International CCD
Vintage Kin Owner
Somewhere
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,550
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Here’s the old link, but it shows that these vents are not available:
https://airstreamsupplycompany.com/p...-refrigerator/
The Airstream Supply website works fine for me. If you put “stainless” in the it search box you will see many other products.
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08-01-2023, 10:34 PM
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#53
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Rivet Master
2019 22' Sport
High River
, Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,182
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 10Smiles
I don't believe trailer braking power comes from the on-board batteries, it all comes through the 7-way plug. When the breakaway gizmo is pulled, then the brakes get power from the on-board batteries.
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Agreed. An alternative explanation: if the brakes are the self-adjusting kind, they can take quite a bit of use before they are adjusted properly, especially if they were not set up properly to begin with. At least, that was my experience when our trailer was new.
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08-02-2023, 04:40 AM
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#54
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Rivet Master
2018 16' Sport
Charlotte
, Vermont
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 597
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The dinette table bugged me, too big when sitting on the couch, so I had a custom set up made. It can be the full deal, or most of the time, it can be a smaller shelf perfect for a coffee mug, glass, candle, book, glasses, etc. I had two pieces of maple bbutcher blaock made, then attached the hardware from the original table plus some door hinges underneath with a removable pin. Now that I'm brining my dog with me, most of the time this area is set up as a bed and I use three pieces of wood for support.
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Charlotte, VT
2010 F-150, 5.4l, V8, 3.55; Bramble: 2018 Bambi Sport 16
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08-03-2023, 09:51 AM
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#55
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Launce
2012 16' Sport
Greenbelt
, Maryland
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 10Smiles
I don't believe trailer braking power comes from the on-board batteries, it all comes through the 7-way plug. When the breakaway gizmo is pulled, then the brakes get power from the on-board batteries.
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No, you're right. There's one make of brake controller that purports to use the house batteries, based on the brakelight current; all the others use the tow-vehicle battery. I was misled by the fact that the breakaway system uses house current.
But that's bizarre: after 5 years of weak braking performance, the trailer brakes suddenly start working properly, when the only change was replacing the house batteries. If I were a scientist, I'd switch back to lead/acid and see how that affected braking performance!
So ... current from the tow-vehicle flows to the house batteries and the trailer 12v circuits, albeit weakly -- I know I can run the power jack on the car battery alone, in a pinch -- but it doesn't work both ways? The house batteries can't supply power to the tow vehicle?
Anyway, I'd recommend lithium batteries as an upgrade for the other benefits.
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