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Old 09-16-2018, 06:39 AM   #1
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Sport 16 Water System Q

Hi all,

I have had my Bramble for a year now and...am still learning! So the question for this week is: what are this petcocks underneath that are attached to a metal [tank/box?] And what is that metal tank/box?

They mention it very briefly in the OM in vague terms ("support the fresh water and holding tanks" Huh?) The OM has not been really helpful in the water system department among others. A diagram similar to electrical diagram would be helpful.

Thank you!

Kim
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:26 AM   #2
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Good morning Kim. If possible at your location, may I suggest hooking up to city water, with the hose bib just barely open, and trying all valves? This “full scale model” check will answer all your questions fairly quickly IMO.

Also a good time to flush all your plumbing lines and fill the water tank. If you can let your clean-ish grey water run on the lawn, into the woods, or down the sewer, that will make it easier.

After you turn off the city water, leave the pump on and check for leaks. The pump should not come on if your system is watertight.

Hopefully another Sport 16 owner have more focused advice.

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Kim - the petcocks are your low point water values. Took me a year to notice them too. I'm sure you know by now that you have only 1 waste tank, so it is black (grey + black equals black), so please don't let the waste run on the lawn, into the woods, or down the sewer.
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Good catch on the one holding tank -- tanks!



If that tank is mostly clean, however, there would be minimal harm in letting the "full scale model" test waste water run onto a private-property lawn or down the sewer IMO.

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Good morning Kim. If possible at your location, may I suggest hooking up to city water, with the hose bib just barely open, and trying all valves? This “full scale model” check will answer all your questions fairly quickly IMO.

Also a good time to flush all your plumbing lines and fill the water tank. If you can let your clean-ish grey water run on the lawn, into the woods, or down the sewer, that will make it easier.

After you turn off the city water, leave the pump on and check for leaks. The pump should not come on if your system is watertight.

Hopefully another Sport 16 owner have more focused advice.

Good luck,

Peter
Hey Peter,

That is great to know--thank you! Will do.
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Kim - the petcocks are your low point water values. Took me a year to notice them too. I'm sure you know by now that you have only 1 waste tank, so it is black (grey + black equals black), so please don't let the waste run on the lawn, into the woods, or down the sewer.
Thanks Peanut. Yes, they definitely make you aware of the single tank (black+gray) waste water system. But never precisely say what that metal tank(s) is underneath. (From the OM for both 16' and 22': "Under the trailer are gal. steel boxes that are a few inches lower than the trailer frame. These boxes are insulated exterior tank pans and they support the freshwater and holding tanks. Petcocks open with 1/4 turn...") Do you see how unclear that is?

So if I open the petcocks, am I releasing black/grey water? Why are there two valves?
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Kim - those values don't release black water. The steel box is not the tank itself which is poly something like your fresh water tank, but covers the tank. From what I have been able to figure out, the box is where the furnace heat circulates, and also carries water lines from the galley side to the bath side.
The manual is definitely lacking. Here's a diagram of the water system. Drawn from memory, but I'm fairly confident it is accurate. Our little campers are so much simpler than those travel trailers
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Kim - those values don't release black water. The steel box is not the tank itself which is poly something like your fresh water tank, but covers the tank. From what I have been able to figure out, the box is where the furnace heat circulates, and also carries water lines from the galley side to the bath side.
The manual is definitely lacking. Here's a diagram of the water system. Drawn from memory, but I'm fairly confident it is accurate. Our little campers are so much simpler than those travel trailers
Oh my goodness! That is really helpful! Thank you so much!

Can I send you some VT maple syrup???
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Thanks for the offer; just please don't ask for an electrical diagram. I notice I left off the fresh water fill and the city water check valve.
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Kim is there still a ferry over to Essex and would your rig fit on it?

Any suggestions for CG near Burlington?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...vt-178245.html

We may have a fall trip up that way.

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Kim is there still a ferry over to Essex and would your rig fit on it?

Any suggestions for CG near Burlington?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...vt-178245.html

We may have a fall trip up that way.

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Last year we took the Burlington VT / Fort Kent NY car ferry with our 25' AS. Lots of room and a great ride.

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Thanks for that link! Here is the one near Kim I was asking about:

http://ferries.com/vt-ny-ferry-route...erry-schedule/

There is even a large Fifth-wheel in the photo!

$30.50 for our 40’ rig.

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Thanks for the offer; just please don't ask for an electrical diagram. I notice I left off the fresh water fill and the city water check valve.
Haha I did realize that but I did happen to know those pieces. And AS put elaborate electrical diagrams in the OM so you're off the hook there!
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Kim is there still a ferry over to Essex and would your rig fit on it?

Any suggestions for CG near Burlington?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...vt-178245.html

We may have a fall trip up that way.

Thanks,

Peter
Hey Peter,

Yes, the Charlotte-Essex ferry will be able to accommodate you! It's a beautiful 1/2 hour ride. Highly recommend. There is a campground in Shelburne VT and one called Rivers Edge in Vergennes. I am fairly new to all of this so don't know them all. Have stayed at a few VT State Park CG's which have been wonderful but they are boondocky and have a limited season. Feel free to contact me with any other questions. I have lived in this area on and off for a long time!

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