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Old 11-04-2006, 01:57 PM   #29
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would also love the 16' layout in a 19'

I'm torn between the 19' and the 16'. Love the 16' layout, but would also like separate (and larger) waste tanks, a larger wet bath, and a bit more space. I probably will end up with a 16' for the panoramic windows....
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:09 PM   #30
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Hello WithChild -- and welcome to the Forums! Now that has to be a unique user name. There is a 19' Safari that is available in the Special Edition. I believe this would give it a front pano window. It'd really help if you saw the models. You might see problems with one or the other. I know they had both a 16' and a 19' at the Mpls Convention Center RV show middle of last February. The 16' bed is only 4' wide but is longer. The 19' bed is very short on the outer wall due to the curved rear corner. And yes, the 16' has very limited floor space!
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:18 PM   #31
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Wanna see a 16'

Thanks for the welcome. I have yet to be inside of a 16'. I can't find one anywhere locally. I guess I'll have to meet someone and request a tour. I notice you are in St. Cloud...do you have a place at the Airstream park near there?
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Negative on the Airstream park. I prefer to travel, not park. We can't store trailers in our neighborhood but I have found good interior storage 5 miles away for our Safari. At least I can bring it to the house to load up before a trip.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:47 PM   #33
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Hello WithChild
About the Airstream Park, its worth stopping in and taking a look. There are many diffrent trailers and everyone seems willing to give a tour. My wife and I bought a lot up there this summer and we really enjoyed it.Welcome to the Forum
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:16 PM   #34
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Good News. Looking to seeing Airstream 20 ft floor plan.
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Aria -- It's the same bed as the 16' trailers -- 48' wide (close to a standard double bed) but much better than the corner beds in a 19' in my opinion. I have very good friends headed for a 20-footer. They were worried about the darkness inside but finally saw one at a dealer -- very bright with two windows over the roadside dinette and a pano window up front with the Special Edition.

We have camped often in 30 degree weather with our Special Edition. I don't feel the metal interior is any different in regard to comfort in cold weather. It does show film on the interior metal from cooking fumes, etc., but these deposits are there anyway with other interior finishes.
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:10 PM   #36
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With the current 19 Bambis, the short person on the curbside only has to climb over the tall sleeper's legs/feet to get out of bed. In the sideways beds, that path is over the center of the bed and taller sleeper. I don't care for that.

When the Apple Macintosh first came out, it had an inadequate 128 KILObytes of memory. Not long after, Apple upgraded it to 512 kb, which became known as the "Fat Mac."

IMO, that's what JC needs to do with the 19' Bambi--an 8-1/2' wide "Fat Bambi" with 54" wide berth and roomier dinette with more storage on each side. While they're at it, ditch the head sink for some counterspace in the galley, like in the Anniversary, but keep the bigger refrigerator on the curbside.
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hi withchild and welcome to the forums...

while i too like the 16 layout, be very careful about buying either a 16 or a 22...

why?

these are the only 2 models that get osb boards for the flooring...

all the other are plywood...marine grade i think.

the osb is fine until it gets wet...

this is not a 'if' but 'when' thing...

you will have water inside at some point....

condensation, rain, leaking plumbing and so on....

so given where you live, i'd opt for a 19 or 23

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Old 11-06-2006, 09:18 PM   #38
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Thanks, 2air, for the welcome and the advice. So many things to consider. I knew nothing of the floor differences...sigh...

If the 19's in the future have a layout more like the 75th, it may be worth the wait. I'm also thinking about the bunk option available on the 19'. I worry about the ventilation, though (I understand that the window on that side becomes un-openable.
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Good post 2air I didn't know about the flooring differences between models. Although after the fact for us, that's awesome info for a potential buyer.

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plywood floor

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while i too like the 16 layout, be very careful about buying either a 16 or a 22...

why? these are the only 2 models that get osb boards for the flooring...

all the other are plywood...marine grade i think.
I went to the factory recently and the tour guy said they still use osb boards instead of plywood for the 16' CCDs because they can use one piece of lumber for the floor - and that the benefits of having the floor be one solid piece outweighted the negative of it not being marine grade.

Don't know if it is true...it's just what they said.

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PS He also said that they weren't making any more 22'ers.
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I went to the factory recently and the tour guy said they still use osb boards instead of plywood for the 16' CCDs because they can use one piece of lumber for the floor - and that the benefits of having the floor be one solid piece outweighted the negative of it not being marine grade.
hi leo

the factory tour is great fun...

i've heard that too, also that the osb is 'more solid', has fewer gaps than ply, that it has better water resistance, and so on...

buyers just need to be aware of any unique features for a given model....

printed model guide and website still include a 22 but we all know how uptodate these are...

and it's hard to imagine the 22 and 23 are both needed...

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Old 03-20-2007, 08:11 AM   #42
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Hey Gang,

The 22' floorplan has been deleted...we can only order the 20' and 23' in the Safari and the 23' in the International...the 23' International has been a great unit for us already...you still have the corner bed but it give you a loarge dinette and LONG sofa down the side.

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