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Old 07-18-2013, 10:14 PM   #15
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Wow! Beautiful pictures !
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:35 PM   #16
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That rig is cute as a bug. Don't know if it is applicable to your situation, but on my Ford F 150, the tailgate pops off very easy and might give you the required clearance instead of just leaving it down.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:42 PM   #17
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GP - Congrats and it looks like you have been testing on Highway 1 south of Monterey.. Not sure how to answer window-in-door question, though I suspect Toscano's in Los Banos would do it for a fee.. I am sure Airstream shop at factory would be happy to cut in a window...

If you haven't attacked propane tanks yet, you should know you can by extender tubes to move entire trailer back up to 14" or 18", with load ratings up to 3,500#.. I've talked to several people using them (often with pickup campers and trailers..) and they claim they work great.. Your trailer should be light enough to work with one of these.. See Hitch Accessories - Reese

I've actually since inquired about the window and was told that it might be easier and perhaps more cost effective to replace the door with one that already has a window. Presumably one from the bambi intl. We'll see what the cost actually is.

Thanks for the link. I've seen those and have heard that a longer ball mounts would be better than an actual hitch extender. I think between that and the relocating the tanks I should have sufficient clearance.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:44 PM   #18
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Are you headed to Red Bull GP at Laguna Seca? Their campground is terrific if you can still find a space.. If not, there is another in Carmel Valley, and a cute little RV Camping area in City of Monterey near Veteran's Park off Hwy 68 between Pebble Beach and Pacific Grove.. Be very wary of CHP radar traps just west of Castroville on Highway 156 near merger with Hwy 1 coming from Santa Cruz.. We've watched 6 or 8 bikes at a time getting ticketed on GP weekend...
We talked about it but man those races, not to mention the entire area, gets so packed!! We might plan something for next year. You going?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:46 PM   #19
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Wow! Beautiful pictures !
Thanks. I'll keep posting as we go along if people are interested.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:48 PM   #20
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That rig is cute as a bug. Don't know if it is applicable to your situation, but on my Ford F 150, the tailgate pops off very easy and might give you the required clearance instead of just leaving it down.
Definitely considered it but the issue is the bikes themselves. We use condor wheel chalks up front and even though those don't take up too much room in front of the tire, it's enough to put the rear wheel right at the end of the truck bed. In other words, half the tire would be hanging over the back.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:14 AM   #21
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Just picked up our new 16 Sport this past weekend. Really happy with it so far. Looking to make the following changes:
  • Install rock-guards
  • Move propane tanks back to make room for truck tailgate (need to be able to drive with the gate down when we haul our motorcycles in the back)
  • Add additional battery
  • Aluminum propane cover
  • Would REALLY like to have the window installed on the door. Any advice on that would be greatly appreciated.
  • Upgrade fan to electric/reversible fan
  • Add Bumper (Advice on this too would be great)
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Rock guards or segment protectors. Yes.

Move propane tanks back. Might be easy enough.

Add another battery. Good idea.

Aluminum propane cover. Much nicer than the plastic one.

Window in the door. Not necessary; I block mine, at times, in hot weather. Maybe find someone who doesn't want a window in their door and see if you can make a door trade.

Upgrade to reversible fan. [vent] I did mine. Fairly easy to do.

Add rear bumper. Highly recommended, but I haven't heard or seen one done yet. You may be the first.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:32 PM   #22
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On order I'm guessing? If so, was it because there were none available in your area?
Pretty much

You all look to be having great fun already. Great photos! Good luck.

I'll be waiting and waiting now
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Not going to Red Bull GP this year.. Traffic trying to get home is so awful on Hwy 1/101 that traveling by car becomes 4 hour slog.. Laguna Seca County Campground at track is wide open most weekends except for major race weekends, and there is almost always some track activity every single weekend of the year.. We've stumbled upon free vintage races or SCCA regionals or even Porsche Club using the track, and no admission charges to sit and watch...
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:54 PM   #24
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Re running greywater into the bushes - I don't have much of a problem with that for as long as people are being responsible about it and use minimal and biodegradable soaps. When we went tent camping I met people who used to filter their waste water through the charcoal from last night's campfire, mixed with sand for a natural filtration system.

I am not familiar with US law, but up here in Canada, should you get caught doing this on public land, the fines can be substantial and can even include a clean up bill. Even on private land the best you can hope for is "don't ask, don't tell".
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I'm curious, can you actually leave the tailgate down when towing the trailer ? Are you sure the ends of the tailgate will not touch the camper in a tight turn ?
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As GP noted, if tailgate is down, then trailer needs to be moved back by extended tow bar or hitch extender, or else propane tanks need to be relocated to provide clearance between tailgate and trailer parts.. Since his motorcycles are longer than the truck bed, he has no option but to let rear tires ride on tailgate, and add extra clearance between trailer and truck...

I've seen a number of older Airstreams with shorter front A frames where there were dents in both lower front corners of trailer from hitting bumper of car when trailer began to fishtail behind car with large heavy chrome bumpers.. (Think 1958 Buick or 1965 Ford Country Squire..)
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Yes, my sportbike too needs to sit slightly on the tailgate. My solution is going to in fact be to take the tailgate off, and I am going to temporary bolt a piece of 5 inch wide channel to the floor of the truck bed ( in my case I have utili-track channels in the bed that I can use as attach points, so I will not have to drill any holes ). I'll make the channel just long enough past the end of the bed ( just a few inches ) to cradle the tire.
I just didn't wanna see him ding the corners of his beautiful trailer with the tailgate !!!
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:20 PM   #28
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some thoughts

I have last years model of your AS and love it. One comment re your upgrades. Be careful about how much weight you are adding. You will reach the 3500 limit before you know it.

One tip on the sink. I discovered recently while dry camping that the sink is insulated underneath! If you do a couple dishes and don't want to dump the hot dishwater because you might have more to do soon, just put the plastic cover/cutting board back on and something over the thumb hole. The water will stay hot for quite awhile. Since we only have about 20 gallons, it helps. I put hot soapy water at a very low level in the sink then run hot water for rinse into the sink and cover it right away. That way I don't have to save up a big pile of dirty dishes just to save water. That tank empties pretty quickly, as I am sure you have found out.

On the other hand your idea about running the gray water from the sink to outside is interesting. But I am finding that the smell issue eventually comes up in such a small trailer tank. I flush it out thoroughly and use tank deodorizer liberally, but I find that it is easier to control if you have more water in the gray/black tank to help break down the black waste. I was emptying it too often and not letting enough gray water get in there when I had hook ups. Dilution helps.

Also, when you run out of fresh water and it all goes into the tank, you know you are within a gallon or 2 of having a full tank and need to dump soon. DO NOT RELY ON YOUR MONITOR. Already had mine repaired under warranty and I find the readings are inconsistent. Sometimes accurate, sometimes not even close.

Enjoy your new adventure
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