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Old 01-16-2014, 12:35 AM   #15
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Not needed, LED lights became standard in (I believe) 2013 so all 2014's already have them.
Nope ... have you actually seen a 2014 16 or just surfing info ...

Renderit - check the big auction site ... we ordered 10 for our last TT and the cost was about the same one purchased here locally.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:54 AM   #16
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Case in point regarding the differences of opinion regarding towing with the propane fridge running or not.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:32 AM   #17
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Thanks all. T minus 2 days and counting. They are installing the second battery in matching case for a very fair price.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:25 AM   #18
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Thanks all. T minus 2 days and counting. They are installing the second battery in matching case for a very fair price.
If they are installing the second batt ... perhaps ask if they will also install a selector switch. That allows you to use one battery and save the second ... or use (charge) both at the same time. It is a really nice option that you frequently see on boats, but rarely on TTs.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:00 PM   #19
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Nope ... have you actually seen a 2014 16 or just surfing info ...

Renderit - check the big auction site ... we ordered 10 for our last TT and the cost was about the same one purchased here locally.
Since you missed it.

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My mistake I guess just the higher trim levels have LED lights standard.
Just from surfing, several people stated their new Airstreams had LEDs and Airstream website said trailers had LED ceiling lights (checked afterwards it was listed for atleast one International trim). Made the mistake of assuming that was all trailers not certain trim levels.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:17 PM   #20
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Congratulations. My wife and I bought a 2013 16J last spring. I had all LED lighting installed and upped the battery from a 24 to a 31. We bring along a small cooler with ice until the fridge cools down. The combination tank works great. There's always enough grey water in there to dilute the black solids. After 6 2 and 3 day outings I still have plenty of propane. Only had to use the A/C on one outing. You will have a blast and everywhere you go you'll make friends because everyone is attracted to the 16. Just go camping and keep notes of what you'll need on your next trip. Have fun.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:37 PM   #21
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Well we got it. The staff helped mount the rest of the E2 hitch and probably got it done 3x faster than I would have. Had them winterize it on account of the weird weather we are having this year. After backing into our driveway 57 different ways trying to figure out where to put it we were worn out enough to call it quits for the day. We spent the afternoon over cacktails reading manuals (how many times can they tell you the same thing? They really need an editor...). Tomorrow we will start to personalize this thing.

As an aside, looking at this machine from in back it is intimidating. Also from the side if you are downhill from it. Dang, the thing is tall!
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:17 AM   #22
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So now the reality sets in:

Hey, just kidding. We are excited as all get out over this and are looking forward to next week when I take it in to the dealership to install the hinged rock guards and repair some crappy factory work. Speaking of which, did any of you have these problems?

1) Screen door does not even begin to fit. Won't latch by itself and huge gap on the top left from inside.

2) Blind in bathroom hung by a drunk. It lists so strongly to starboard it ought to be illegal. Are they going to poke 57 more holes to fix it?

3) Rivit under table popped out.

4) Water heater mounted wrong, pushes out the outside cover and already rusting on the heat exchanger.

5) TV has a dead pixel that like grabs my attention and now I can't not see it.

6) Blinds over sink. No lower attachment point. They hang straight down and hit the faucet. Really?

7) Bed mattress does not really fit the opening for it, already the melamine is delaminating on the edge of the decorative piece.

When you are asked to pay enormous prices for these things I expect some workmanship. Hell, I can buy a pretty fancy car at this price. Slightly more intense a build and zero defects. Love the trailer, but some of the workmanship and Quality Control is kind of a joke in my book.
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Old 01-22-2014, 08:31 AM   #23
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Does yours have ripples in the linoleum? Both 16's on our dealer's lot had this issue. Since we're visiting Jackson Center later in the spring anyway, we went ahead and scheduled them to do the repair under warranty.

Both 16's also had a protruding edge on the water heater door. I chalked it up to fitting a flat door against the curved wall of the Airstream. Ours isn't bad enough to warrant a fix.

Nothing made by human hands is perfect. Although ours has a couple issues it is mega-slamdunk-head and shoulders above our old trailer both in quality of components and build quality. And aside from that, it seems to have an intelligence of design. Our old SOB seemed to be a random compilation of parts. It just wasn't smart.
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Old 01-22-2014, 08:49 AM   #24
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Does yours have ripples in the linoleum? Both 16's on our dealer's lot had this issue.

Both 16's also had a protruding edge on the water heater door. I chalked it up to fitting a flat door against the curved wall of the Airstream. Ours isn't bad enough to warrant a fix.

Nothing made by human hands is perfect. Although ours has a couple issues it is mega-slamdunk-head and shoulders above our old trailer both in quality of components and build quality. And aside from that, it seems to have an intelligence of design. Our old SOB seemed to be a random compilation of parts. It just wasn't smart.
Mine has no floor ripples. But the other 3 there did which was why we bought this one.

None of the other 3 had the protruding edge. Nor the rust.

Not perfect maybe, but at least acceptable. The bathroom blind issue is horrible and unforgivable if I can look at it and get seasick, the floors unacceptable (and quite obviously able to be done without issue as ours is) and the kitchen blind an major QC issue. The screen door shows nobody even looked at it (I am hopefully to be forgiven as I ASSUMED they checked these things).

I agree, we have looked for many years before making this leap. After a brief period when they were purchased by a certain Greek God and their QC was total offal I would say they are much better than most. But I will say, at twice the price I expect (no really, demand) better attention to detail and better QC THAN ALL THE REST.

That said, I must insist, I still love the unit. I am rather anal about workmanship. I perform to a high level, I don't expect you to buy my product if I don't display BETTER than anyone else in the field.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:17 PM   #25
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Countertops

We have a 2013 Bambi 16'. Be careful with the countertops. The material is very soft and prone to dings (a glass soda bottle slipped out of my hand only and inch or so from the tabletop and left a small divit on the white surface.

We had the dealer install an extra battery prior to p/u (room for it), full led's change out AND installed a manual switch for the fan on the fridge (otherwise it runs almost all the time even in cool weather).

We did four nights without hook ups and did great! When using the toilet I do keep two one gallon plastic water bottles in the bathroom and use them to pour into the toilet to assist with flushing and saves on using the electric water pump when dry camping.

I run the frig on propane when traveling (have done so with two other trailers) and never a safety problem. I do turn on the frig with shore power at home 72 hours prior to leaving to get it stone cold when I pull away from the curb. I've been able to keep my stash of ice cream nice and cold on our trips.

Keep the little tin can neat and picked up inside since you'll be spending alot of time showing it off to other campers wherever you go.

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Old 02-08-2014, 07:16 PM   #26
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Still waiting to get it back, but looked at it today to get some measurements for storage boxes. Imagine my chagrin when I discovered the section guards are screwed on the unit. No hinges, can't clean behind them, multiple points now for leaks and they just slapped them on over the clear tape they put on at the factory. I guess the "hinged rock guards" we agreed on during the price negotiations must have meant something else. My bad I suppose for not having them "show me" what they were talking about.
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:31 PM   #27
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Still waiting to get it back, but looked at it today to get some measurements for storage boxes. Imagine my chagrin when I discovered the section guards are screwed on the unit. No hinges, can't clean behind them, multiple points now for leaks and they just slapped them on over the clear tape they put on at the factory. I guess the "hinged rock guards" we agreed on during the price negotiations must have meant something else. My bad I suppose for not having them "show me" what they were talking about.
Ask them where the hinges are and to demonstrate their function. You are going to have this trailer a very long time, make sure it is how you think it should be. A little thing here or there will drag on you every time you use it.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:30 AM   #28
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A little late for that. There are (guess) 16-24 holes in the box now. It is effectively ruined. They can't take them back out. I am totally deflated at this point.
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